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Author: steefjeuh
Date: 2020-01-11 18:43
Hello everyone,
I was once gifted an old clarinet but now I am really interested in finding out how old it is. Though the person who gave it to me said it was from the 40's, I am not so sure now. (take note however, that I don't actually play clarinet, nor do I know anything about it)
It is a B clarinet of 64 cm.
The barrel joint has inscripted: 'e.j. albert'
the upper joint: Adler & co, Mark neukirchen , below it: Louis de leeuw, zwolle
The lower joint: Kohler & co, winnenden, Wurtemberg, B
I did google all this but I don't really understand it all. I hope that you (the experts will be able to help me)
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2020-01-11 22:58
Hi,
I have an E.J. Albert, that was made by the same man as your barrel. It has a really lovely tone. The whole instrument would look like these:
http://www.clarinetsdirect.biz/EJAlberts-Fletcher.html
This is about the Albert family:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Albert
I don't know about the other parts, but you have a very nice barrel. :-)
Best wishes,
Jen
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Author: steefjeuh
Date: 2020-01-11 23:01
Could it be possible that different parts were made by different people? It looks whole to me though but I don't have a trained eye
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Author: MichaelW
Date: 2020-01-13 22:55
I've never seen a clarinet with at least three different components (the bell isn't mentioned) which besides gives some hints on recent European history (sorry my English isn't quite up to it). Some pictures would be welcome:
E.J. Albert, until the 1930ties, was the biggest Belgian manufacturer with a quite extensive (and problematic, see New Langwill index) family history. The „Albert“ („Simple“) system was only one of their achievements.
Adler & Co, Markneukirchen, Germany had a long history as a family owned factory, was after the war nationalized by the GDR communist regime, then went to Boosey & Hawkes and now belongs to Gebr. Mönnig & Adler, a branch of Buffet- Crampon, owned by an investment company. This instrument is also marked „ Louis de Leeuw Zwolle“, as far as I can see, a Dutch-Jewish instrument merchant in Zwolle, Netherlands, who was killed in Auschwitz 1943 with about 20 of his name.
Kohlert & Co. , Winnenden, then West Germany, was re- founded in 1946 by members of the Kohlert family who had owned the biggest wind instrument factory in Graslitz, former Bohemia, Austro- Hungarian empire, then, after WW I, Kraslicze, Czecho-Slovak republic. After WW II they were expelled and their factory nationalized and named „Amati“. The Kohlert shop in Winnenden went bankrupt in the 1960ties.
Such a mixed instrument won't be much worth, but please hold it in honor for its history.
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Author: steefjeuh
Date: 2020-01-14 22:16
I can't add the images because the format is too big.
How much would be reasonable to sell it for? Although I think it a fascinating object, I was thinking of selling it. I don't want to make a huge profit but I do want to sell it for a reasonable price. i dont know what I should ask for it
Post Edited (2020-01-14 22:20)
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