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Author: Claripower
Date: 2018-06-18 01:22
I haven't find a post about silverstein...
I'm going to buy a new ligature this week, but I wanted to know your opinion about cryo4 and estro model before it?
Have you tried some of them?
Which diferences could you find between them?
Everybody that have tried it have bought one. I think its a good choice for playing with legere plastic reeds.
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Author: shmuelyosef
Date: 2018-06-18 02:53
Legere plastic reeds are more difficult to 'set' than cane, and also need to be set more accurately (that is my experience).
I have found that my 'fancier' single screw ligatures (e.g. Vandoren Optima) are harder to get the reed to hold still.
Lots of folks using Legere reeds are using the pedestrian Rovner ligatures (the LITE or the dark (i.e. the cheaper ones) with success; they work for me as well.
My personal preference is the Bonade inverted ligature with 2-screws. 2-screws allows you to lightly clamp the bottom of the reed, fine-tune the position and then fully clamp. I get the most consistency using this ligature with bright lighting (a small LED flashlight in my mouth).
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2018-06-18 05:29
There have been many, many posts on Silverstein. They seem to activate intense emotions among many normally relaxed people. I've tried Cryo4 and Estro. In my opinion, Estro is noticeably better. Since you're asking, you already know they're expensive, so we don't need to get into that. I've tried lots and lots of ligatures, and also string, though I've not tried an Ishimori. I like the Estro better than anything else I've tried, which is why, not coincidentally, I play on one.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2018-06-18 21:43
I use the Silversteins with Legere German cut reeds (on a full Boehm set-up).
For some reason (don't really know why), I have better luck with the plain, black versions (I have both the A frame and T frame Silversteins in both normal and cryo).
The latest purchase was a T-Frame Cryo. It doesn't seem as well made as the earlier ligature of theirs that I have........just sayin'. But it is still a very good ligature.
Bottom line though is that they work well with Legere, no problem. And they are still my favorite (and I have all but the Kessler magneto ligature.....probably only hear the difference with cane).
...............Paul Aviles
P.S. Some mentioned above concerning Vandoren. The Optimum works great for me with wavy plate, four point plate and the top and bottom ridge plate.
The Vandoren Masters also clamps the Legere down really secure.
Post Edited (2018-06-19 00:16)
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2018-06-20 08:55
For the money the reverse Bonade is great. $30 or so. At one point they were the best during the 1960's 1970's, then inventors started playing around with new ligatures. Today you can pay up to $900 to $1000 for a ligature with a diamond included. Some ligatures sadly scratch your beautiful $500 to $2000 plus mouthpieces.
The Rovner is a good idea for protecting a your mouthpiece. Also Vandoren makes something pretty cool. It's sorta like playing on a German ligature, the concept is there. Just certain points touch the mouthpiece. But it is overkill.
My own thoughts are I like very lightweight ligatures. The Germans use a string. That's very lightweight. I will often gut out a metal ligature as much as I can using a grinder and metal and shears and smooth it with sandpaper, then glue in very thin pieces of soft rubber at the points were the tiny piece of rubber touches the reeds, pretty much 4 corners of the ligature. Contact Cement works well. Then also on the points were the ligature would touch the mouthpiece to prevent scratches. This allows the mouthpiece and the reeds to vibrate as one unit. The theory behind this wacky idea is when we test reeds for the first time our thumb is often the best ligature. Kinda like a string as the Germans do. So I tried to make a ligature similar to that thumb feel.
It's kind of fun to make your own ligatures then compare them to each other. It's surprising how much differences they can make with your sound, articulation, feel of the mouthpiece, all of that. A live sound, a dead sound all can be part of your ligature. You will surely feel differences and I don't think you have to spend $900 or even $75 for a ligature to get the results you want.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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Author: fernie121
Date: 2018-06-21 18:41
I’ve tried so many ligatures! Including the very fancy Silverstein ligatures. I always go back to Rovner. I use an Eddie Daniels Rovner. I also really love a very old Rovner dark that I have. The same Rovner I’ve used since 7th grade. Just find what feels right for you and move on to something else to obsess over.
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Author: Claripower
Date: 2018-06-22 20:10
I used to play with Eddie Daniels ligature too. The firts model, I Don't like at all the next version shared for clarinet and sax.
Finally, I went to cryo. I like it, although I feel more harmonics I think it doesn't allow to play louder as I used to. But the sound is focused and more vibrant.
I'll see when I play a couple weeks...
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