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Author: ajanosa
Date: 2017-09-14 20:00
Hi all,
I'm looking to fashion together some standing-length pegs for a few of our university owned bass clarinets (1193s). I don't have access to a set of calipers at the moment, so I was just curious if anyone knew the nominal or actual diameter (if there's any difference) of the stock Buffet pegs? I'm looking to find rod stock that's as close as possible to the stock peg size, to avoid damaging the peg holder with any unnecessary play, etc. Thanks in advance!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-09-14 21:04
The standard peg is 7mm diameter, so use that diameter where it fits in the receiver.
I'd suggest you use a much wider diameter steel rod for the remainder if it's for use whilst standing as that won't flex as much, so any steel rod over 8mm up to 10mm maximum drilled to take the 7mm section at the top end and then cut the thicker steel rod to the required length. If you find they're a bit short for standing playing, then raise them on a block of wood.
You won't be making any alterations to the existing floor peg nor instrument by doing this. The Wolf Super End Pin should fit onto the end of the larger diameter steel rod provided you don't go over 10mm diameter.
Brass, nickel silver or carbon fibre rod will be far too flexible, as well as far more expensive than steel.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2017-09-14 22:28
I've made long pegs for a few players. I always use stainless steel. I wouldn't use larger than 9mm diameter, which is already pretty massive and heavy. Mine is 8mm. I just made one for someone who is almost 2m tall and used 9mm. For a very short player even 7mm might be ok, least amount of work, but have to check if flex is acceptable. There will always be a bit of flex not from the peg itself.
I've always turned the top to 7mm even though I don't like turning stainless steel...
The Buffet is more annoying in that there's the key at the back, so the peg holder is installed at the angle so it's not in the way...
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Author: concertmaster3
Date: 2017-09-15 18:19
The faculty reed quintet at UNCG took a rod form a filing cabinet and used it! It had a lot of flex, but only when our quintet used it (our bass clarinet player was 6'3", professor that was using it was shorter than 5'7" IIRC).
You can buy the rods at Lowe's and I've used that for myself. I took the bell in and sized it to fit. And you can stick a rubber endpin stopper on it and be fine. Most music stores will have these for cellists also, so they shouldn't be that hard to come across.
Good luck!
Ron Ford
Woodwind Specialist
Performer/Teacher/Arranger
http://www.RonFordMusic.com
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2017-09-16 00:43
I made one with a length of 7mm stainless steel rod and a rubber cello spike protector. It flexes a little, but not enough to really affect playing. Caveat is that it's for a low C bass: I can't vouch for a low Eb bass, which would need a longer peg - although has less weight to support. If you've got the tools to reduce one end of a heavier gauge rod as others have suggested it will be sturdier. If not, experimenting with the 7mm won't break the bank, and may work for you as it did for me...
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2017-09-16 17:01
If you can find carbon fiber rod in the correct diameter (fishing pole material, maybe? Aircraft parts suppliers?) I would use that to make a rod. Stiffer and lighter than metal. You're going to be making a really long rod, so high stiffness is critical.
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Author: oian
Date: 2017-09-20 06:34
I made a stand-up peg for my Ridenour low C bass. Just measure the diameter of the original peg and go to your local metal supply person and get a section of drill rod the same diameter (you can use stainless if you like, but the drill rod is stiffer and if you keep it out of floods, will work just fine), cut it to length. Then go to your local "Dollar Store" and get a small "Super Ball" and drill about 3/4 through the ball with a drill slightly smaller than the rod. Press the rod into the ball and you now have a longer peg that works just fine at a cost of considerably less than a custom rod.
John
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2017-09-21 17:39
For my Eb Jupiter I needed a rod that's nearly two feet long, and I bought a thick-walled (2mm) aluminium tube which I epoxied a wood stick into in order to save the tube from being crumpled by the peg screw and to minimize flexing.
(The Jupiter peg is a monster with 9.5mm diameter)
Tubing is (obviously) lighter than a solid rod, but not necessarily weaker.
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Ben
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Author: ajanosa
Date: 2017-09-24 18:39
Thanks to everyone for the info and ideas! As it seems now, for longevity's sake (will likely donate the pegs to the school once I graduate) I'll go with some stainless steel stock. The people needing them are only 5' 7", so they won't be very long on the Low C instruments, and flex shouldn't be a huge issue. Not to mention, I'd end up going to a metal supplier anyway since my local home stores don't have any carbon steel rod of the right diameter anyway. I appreciate the help! I'll update here with the finished product once I make them
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Author: Merlin_Williams
Date: 2017-09-26 17:56
http://www.sfoxclarinets.com/Accessories.html#bass%20clar%20acc
Steve Fox makes a standing bass clarinet peg. Available with or without a Wolf Endpin Bumper.
Jupiter Canada Artist/Clinician
Stratford Shakespeare Festival musician
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