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 Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: clarinetplayer21 
Date:   2015-07-01 21:37

i dont understand why they did. For the Eb and Bb it makes sense so that you could transpose other clarinets. (D and A respectivly) but why a full boehm A? or more specifically, why put a low Eb on an A? the other changes make sense but i dont see the need with an A.

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2015-07-01 22:54

Because they could? ;)

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2015-07-01 23:15

I don't know if this was the original intent but by putting a low Eb on the A it means that low E and more importantly the B a 12th above both issue from a real tonehole and are not "bell" notes.
This has quite a significant effect on eveness of tone quality and improved balance of intonation.
I guess a secondary effect is that (at least on some instruments) the throat Bb can also be played as a clarion overblown low Eb.

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2015-07-01 23:41

I've always wondered this myself. I have one (the second I've had). But I think Norman is on the right track -- we may never need that low Eb specifically, but its presence helps out the rest of the range a bit.

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Bennett 2017
Date:   2015-07-01 23:57

Isn't the A clarinet an historical curiosity, i.e., a device originally created when clarinets were built in multiple keys because today's modern keywork, which allows chromatic playing, didn't exist. Since composers, like Mozart, e.g., chose to write for A clarinet, modern manufacturers create instruments to facilitate music written for A clarinet. Yes, we could play everything on a Bb or a C or an E clarinet but we'd have to do a lot of transposing. Thus we avoid the plight of French Horn players who have to mentally transpose much of the classical repertoire from a whole bunch of different keys. Music publishers could republish everything originally scored for A to Bb clarinet - I'm still waiting. And, of course, many - perhaps most, A clarinets don't have a (written) Eb key; they just go down to written E

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-07-02 01:59
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Having the low Eb on a full Boehm A clarinet gives it the same lowest note as a viola (Concert C) so that makes it very useful for playing viola transcriptions that use the open low C note.

I wonder if full Boehm D clarinets were ever made? I've got full Boehm A, Bb and Eb clarinets and know Selmer made full Boehm C clarinets, but to complete their lineup, full Boehm D clarinets will fill that gap - their lowest note sounding F natural.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: clarinetplayer21 
Date:   2015-07-02 02:41

wow you sure love full boehms. they are the best after all. :) what brand are the ones in the picture? also, Do you know where i could get a full boehm Eb? possibly new? also. even though they are very rare you cant forget the Ab clarinet!

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: clarii2 
Date:   2015-07-02 10:55

it makes a great 3rd line b-flat

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Ralph 
Date:   2015-07-02 16:16

Chris

Ralph

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Ralph 
Date:   2015-07-02 16:20

Chris - I was browsing the Selmer Paris website and found a brochure describing their clarinet family. Believe it or not, there is a picture of a D clarinet in Full Boehm disguise. There is hope for your collection !!

Ralph

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Ralph 
Date:   2015-07-02 16:21

Chris - I was browsing the Selmer Paris website and found a brochure describing their clarinet family. Believe it or not, there is a picture of a D clarinet in Full Boehm disguise. There is hope for your collection !!

Ralph

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-07-02 17:15

Hi Ralph - I completely forgot about that! Found it:
http://www.selmer.fr/media/info/clarinet%20family.pdf

And here's a full Boehm Selmer Series 9 C clarinet:
http://194.250.19.151/media/UEDIN/IMAGE/0036638d.jpg

Ripamonti make Ab clarinets with 19 keys and 7 rings, so almost full Boehms but without the low Eb (scroll down for a photo of one):
http://www.laripamonti.com/instruments/

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Why did they make full boehm clarinets in A?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-07-02 17:20

Dominic - I found the full Boehm Eb purely by chance on 'the famous auction site that nobody shall name' in Hungary, so had to have it as I use the gadgets a lot on my Bb/A full Boehms and often opened or held the C#/G# key down on my plain Buffet Eb which caused some problems. So now I can use the same fingerings and especially the forked Eb/Bb which I also use a lot.

My full Boehms are all Selmers - I had a Leblanc LL full Boehm but sold that recently to a former colleague of mine who is really enjoying it. I do also have a Buffet full Boehm Bb clarinet, but that's more of a curiosity if anything.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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