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 '61 Buffet R13
Author: samjapan2014 
Date:   2014-12-11 17:33

Has anyone had any experience with the '61 R13, is this a good year for the instrument?

Samuel Phillips

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2014-12-11 18:38

In general R13's from the 60's seem to be highly regarded. That being said, individual horns are what they are, some good, some not so good, some bad. Try it and see.

Tony F.

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: Ed 
Date:   2014-12-11 19:36

I agree. While some choose instruments with a great attention to year and serial number, they can vary quite a bit. Play testing is the best bet.

It is funny that years ago folks talked about trying 20 to find a good one. Now many older clarinets are praised as being fine horns from the vintage era.

I wonder what ever happened to all of the lousy ones?

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: Joseph Brenner, Jr. 
Date:   2014-12-11 20:03

That was the year of the Buffet my parents bought for me from W. Hans Moennig. Moennig tuned it and cut the wings off the bridge key. Nobody ever hinted, implied, or told me that the clarinet was not playing in tune. I have Buffet and Moennig to thank for that. But, again, don't buy without right to return without charge AND don't buy without trying. best wishes

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: AAAClarinet 
Date:   2014-12-11 23:59

I apologize for the non related question, but why would someone cut the wings of the bridge key?

AAAClarinet

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: bradfordlloyd 
Date:   2014-12-12 02:15

I have a Buffet R-13 in Bb from 1961. I have tried hard to find a clarinet I like better, but haven't found one in the 25+ years that I have owned it.*

FWIW, the bridge key on this instrument doesn't have any wings (but my Buffet R-13 in A from 1981 does). I always assumed that the wings were related to the specifics of the year it was made.


*Note: Over the years I have found clarinets that I like just as much, or like for different reasons, but not one that I like better.

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: Clarineteer 
Date:   2014-12-12 09:56

Mr Moennig simply cut the wings off of the bridge key for identification purposes.

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: bradfordlloyd 
Date:   2014-12-13 19:27

So, if there are no wings on my bridge key on my 1961 R-13, that means someone (possibly Moennig) altered it?

If yes, that may explain why I like it so much.

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2014-12-13 20:06

No, wings were cut off so that the player can see exactly where the connection is.

Jacobi did that to my '89 Prestige set.


Old Clarinets might have very good wood, but that very good wood is also very, VERY dried out. So dimensions may have changed from a little to a lot.


Beware. They can be adjusted somewhat, but don't take off wood (ream for the shrinkage) which the surrounding wood might expand in the future.

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: LarryBocaner 2017
Date:   2014-12-13 20:08

Wings on the bridge key are like training wheels on a bicycle -- OK for beginners -- shouldn't be there for experienced riders/players!



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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: Brad Behn 
Date:   2014-12-15 21:57

Yes. But make sure you try before you buy.

Brad Behn
http://www.clarinetmouthpiece.com

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 Re: '61 Buffet R13
Author: BflatNH 
Date:   2014-12-16 07:09

I have experience with one near that time.
It plays very well in tune with itself up to C7 (2X above staff)
and I really like its tone.
When I first started playing it to compare, it was not in tune, but after about a half hour, it played the best of the lot.

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