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 "new idea" barrels bore
Author: jura 
Date:   2014-06-08 20:18
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your opinions? will it work? what the intended result?

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: kdk 
Date:   2014-06-08 20:24

Your second question is more to the point. What magic is it supposed to accomplish?

Karl

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2014-06-08 20:30

In weapons you refer to the first example as "rifling." I guess if you were to fire a round down the first example, the round would go further.





..........Paul Aviles



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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: jura 
Date:   2014-06-08 20:32

I don `t know. have not tried
maybe someone has experience? or thoughts

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2014-06-08 20:38

Would a southern hemisphere player need a "thread" in the opposite direction?

With all the gear that is roaming our clarinet planet, I think the effect (if any) is primarily noticed by the player, not the audience...

--
Ben

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: kdk 
Date:   2014-06-09 02:24

But to get the most benefit from the rifling, you'd probably have to rifle the entire bore of the rest of the clarinet. Imagine the projective power!! Might not be pretty, but you could hear it in the next county.

Karl

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2014-06-09 02:31

Put a spin in the sound?

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: TomS 
Date:   2014-06-09 06:59

Might be a good thing ... but most likely this product was "designed in the sales department". As most things are nowadays ...

Tom

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2014-06-09 07:24

The purpose of rifling is to spin the projectile and thus stabilize it in flight, so that it remains pointy end first. As clarinets, despite what some brass players say, are not actually projectile-firing weapons, I'm not sure exactly what this device is designed to do. There is not a mass of air moving down the instrument, and even if there were then rifling would not do much more than cause turbulence in the surface layer. Curious.

Tony F.

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2014-06-09 07:31

The shape makes no difference whatsoever. See http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=390131&t=94059.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: BartHx 
Date:   2014-06-09 08:23

<The shape makes no difference whatsoever>

I assume, with that statement, you are meaning only cross sectional shape and are not including taper.

The responses here would seem to indicate that the old advice of rotating your barrel and trying it in various positions to determine the one that gives the best tone and response would be a waste of time since the only thing that would be doing would be changing the position of the cross sectional shape relative to the mouthpiece and the rest of the instrument.

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2014-06-09 09:45

"The responses here would seem to indicate that the old advice of rotating your barrel and trying it in various positions to determine the one that gives the best tone and response would be a waste of time since the only thing that would be doing would be changing the position of the cross sectional shape relative to the mouthpiece and the rest of the instrument."

Not necessarily. The reason for rotating the barrel is that the barrel may not be drilled concentric with the bore. The bore itself may not be concentric and rotating establishes the point of maximum coincidence between them.

Tony F.

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: cyclopathic 
Date:   2014-06-09 14:16
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if this http://www.rovnerproducts.com/products/clarinet-barrels/rectangular-bore.php works

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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2014-06-11 03:05

If you use polygonal rifling, be certain not to play with "lead" phrasing. It will foul the bore.
Will it be button rifled or cold forged? This makes a difference in warm up and break in
Of the instrument. Gaston is emphatic about this (not Hamelin).


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-





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 Re: "new idea" barrels bore
Author: saxlite 
Date:   2014-06-12 03:50

Lots of tomfoolery here but no real information. Has anyone actually tried one of these barrels?

Jerry

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