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Author: Ben Shaffer
Date: 2014-04-30 02:04
Well,I bought a Rovner Light ligature for my Normandy 4 Clarinet with a Hite Premier MP.
Ive used it for a week or so and it sounded as least as good as the standard 2 screw metal ligature I'd been previously using.
Here to for Ive had the top of the light Ligature set right at the scribe line.
Tonight however I set the ligature lower by an 1/8 of an inch or so and it made the clarinet sound spectacular.
Was this something I had should have been doing all along and have others seen this as well?
Have not read the instructions that came with the ligature
BTW.... Adult learner....no Teacher, just a Rubank book
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-04-30 03:38
Mouthpiece makers often scribe one or more lines on body to indicate approximate ligature placement however note the approximate.
The "best" position can only be found by trial and error and will often by slightly different for one reed compared to the next.
Too low (nearer the barrel) can cause some wildness of response and too high can deaden the reeds ability to vibrate so a happy medium is usual but as noted above the best spot depends on your mouthpiece and reed. Just experiment by moving in mm increments higher and lower until you find your spot.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-04-30 04:56
I default to the reed itself more for "proper placement." I try to center the ligature on the bark of the reed. Sometimes the ligatures work better with the ligature slightly further down from there.
But the line of ligature on most mouthpieces by far too high.
Congrats on the Rovner Light. Truly one of the best ligatures out there period.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2014-04-30 16:42
There is no "perfect" placement for a ligature. Depends of the mouthpiece and reed as well as the players preference. Trial and error is the best placement.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2014-05-04 00:21
I suggest for students t get the Rovner Light if for material ligature only, or the ones with the metal plated in them.
The Rovner Dark ligatures, to me give students the equivalent of a blanket over the sound, which I don't want. The Light works quite well for what it is. (Non plated)
And they last forever pretty much!
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-05-04 08:08
>> Correct Rovner Light Lig placment <<
Usually, on the mouthpiece
But not always
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-05-04 08:34
I find a good place to begin is to line it up with the end of the shiny "bark" on the reed just at the beginning of the vamp, and go from there (usually not necessary).
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2014-05-04 18:47
Has anyone but me seen and heard so many really fine players that use all different types of ligatures and sound really good. Some peole like a more covered tone, some like a brighter tone, some like more high frequencies and some like less. There is no one fits all and there is no one placement fits all. Period. Same with mouthpieces, same with reeds, same with jello flavors.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-05-04 22:47
Some years ago I was looking at my Star Wars DVD extras, the ones with John Williams directing the sound track music. And I saw the same clarinet player in a couple of these, separated by a few years. And I was amused that he had a Rovner ligature one time, and what might have been a Vandoren Optimum in the other... would have to look it up to say which was first. I concluded that even many high end players have not settled the issue. And that made me relax about it a bit, myself.
So is that player reading this now... care to identify yourself? LOL
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-05-04 23:03
Well, if I am correct, it was the London Symphony that recorded much of the early John Williams smash hit movies. The principal clarinet would still have been Jack Brymer. I only know for a fact that the GREAT trumpet lines were written for and performed by none other than the GREAT Maurice (pronounced Morris) Murphy.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-05-04 23:30
One of them was for Duel of Fates in Phantom Menace, for the duel between Darth Mall and Qui Gon Jin / Obi Wan Kenobi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ezvZo2AWc at :35 ... Rovner
But I remember seeing same player with different ligature in another clip.
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
Post Edited (2014-05-05 00:00)
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-05-05 00:24
The clip above is LSO but it's after Brymer's time. The only face visible is 2nd clarinet but 1st is definitely not playing B&H 1010 so most likely is Andrew Marriner.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-05-05 06:07
Sorry, when I hear "Star Wars" I think circa 1977.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-05-05 06:25
Even 1999 is far longer ago than I like to admit.
But back to one of the questions at hand, is vacillation about equipment such as ligature part of clarinet play at every level? Is anyone settled and content?
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-05-05 23:39
The player with optimum ligature is Chi-yu Mo the second clarinet / Eb player.
First player (Rover Lig?) looks like Marriner.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-05-06 00:05
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
Post Edited (2014-05-06 00:29)
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