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Author: GBK
Date: 2013-12-17 03:10
Happy (belated) Birthday Beethoven ... and many thanks for the Pastoral Symphony
...GBK
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2013-12-17 04:01
As a child I grew up listening to this unique symphony. My father had it on three 12 inch 78 rpm vinyls (six sides). That's how much vinyl it took to fit it on to this recording. To me it was musical 'magic'.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2013-12-17 15:56
@Barry......wonder if it was vinyl or "shellac"
Bob Draznik
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2013-12-17 16:50
Come to think of it Bob. It had to be 'shellac'.
Also , if memory serves me , it took several brass 'needles' to play all the six sides. I seem to remember that there were 'brass' and perhaps 'nickle plated' ones as well.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-12-17 18:08
You had two needle choices for old Victrolas: steel or cactus thorn. During the acoustic era, the needle material made a big difference. Once 78 rpm players were electrified and had tone controls, it didn't matter as much.
How quickly you young whippersnappers forget.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2013-12-17 19:59
All I can remember concerning the needles was that there were 'golden' ones and 'silver' ones and he was forever changing them. One needle I think was only good for two sides.
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2013-12-17 20:26
We had complete operas and lots of needles.
richard smith
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2013-12-17 21:08
I did read somewhere that even with Beethoven's 6th Symphony on three 12 inch 78s they still had to speed up the performance somewhat to fit it all on. (And no repeat sections)
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Author: Chris_C ★2017
Date: 2013-12-17 22:07
The special needles lasted into the very early 60s. Cactus not being common in the UK, my father's gramophone used rose thorns or steel needles. There was a little gadget with a strip of sandpaper and a jig to roll/slide the needles back and forth to be sharpened, and as a small boy I loved being allowed to do the sharpening. Rose thorns were generally preferred over the steel needles because they were thought to cause less wear on the record, but some records had to be played with steel needles because the rose thorns snapped at one of the fortissimo passages.
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Author: marcia
Date: 2013-12-17 22:25
>and many thanks for the Pastoral Symphony
Amen to that Glenn. That is the piece I wanted the very most to play (with my amateur orchestra) of all the orchestral repertoire. Finally after a 20 plus year wait (no exageration) it was on the programme for spring 2012. Sometimes after aniticapting for so long the reality can be disappointing. But not so with Beethoven. He lived up to my every expectation. That was the highlight of my orchestra "career".
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2013-12-19 19:32
If we had a T.A.R.D.I.S, we could go find Beethoven and try to talk him into writing a clarinet concerto! We'd probably have to pay him, but we'd do pretty well on the timey-wimey exchange rate.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-12-19 19:50
I'd go back and follow Stadler around to find out where he pawned the manuscripts for the Mozart Concerto (with the low notes Mozart actually wrote) and the Quintet.
And then I'd keep them for myself! (I'm a great fan of Dick Vigorous.)
Ken Shaw
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Author: Jerry
Date: 2013-12-19 20:15
That contains absolutely my favorite clarinet excerpts in any symphony. The pleading sounds of nature.
Jerry
The Villages, FL
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2013-12-20 01:04
I'm playing Beethoven's 6th sometime this spring. I doubt we'll play the entire symphony, though :(
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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Author: marcia
Date: 2013-12-20 10:39
>I'm playing Beethoven's 6th sometime this spring. I doubt we'll play the >entire symphony, though :(
How can your conductor only want to play only part of it?? ![[huh]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie11.gif)
If that is the case you need to stage a protest and demand the whole piece.
Just my 2 cents worth.......
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