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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-08-20 16:56
My longtime dentist has retired and knows other dentists only near where he lives, which is 40 miles from where I live.
Can anyone recommend a dentist in Brooklyn or Manhattan who treats wind instrument players? John Moses has written about his dentist, but I believe he's in New Jersey.
By the way, Ron Odrich is a well-known clarinetist and dentist, but when I called his office I learned that he's a specialized periodontist (gum diseases), not a general dentist.
Thanks.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Vubble3
Date: 2013-08-20 17:06
Just tell any dentist to have your needs met.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2013-08-20 20:29
>> Just tell any dentist to have your needs met. >>
Yeah, good luck with that. Since Ken is in a major metropolitan area with lots of dentists to choose from, I think he's smart to look for a dentist who already has some idea of what players of beak-mouthed wind instruments need.
Lelia
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Author: pewd
Date: 2013-08-20 21:18
I'm in agreement with Lelia.
The best bet is to find one that actually plays a wind instrument.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Wes
Date: 2013-08-20 21:45
Beware of dentists who have a financial planner on their staff.
Check the internet for reviews of any dentist you expect to see. Many of them get poor reviews.
Good luck!
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Author: joe423
Date: 2013-08-20 22:35
New to this topic to me. What do woodwind players need in a dentist?
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2013-08-22 02:29
My question exactly.
I can understand if orthodontic work was being done - some fixtures are quite intrusive and some are not (but any orthodontist could cooperate with that.)
And can understand that you need some understanding if you are say getting a full set of crowns and prefer not to have the tooth alignments altered too much at the front.
But for general dentistry???
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Author: DougR
Date: 2013-08-22 02:50
Ken, you might give Peter Silver a try. I went to him for a while, thought he was terrific, but he didn't take my particular insurance, and it got to be a problem for me financially. Great guy, though, plays trumpet, runs a rehearsal band with a lot of good players in it, and I never had a bad moment with him. Here's a Yelp page on him.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/peter-silver-dds-new-york
ps, I THINK he was Wynton Marsalis's dentist at one point, maybe still is. Used to advertise regularly in the 802 paper, too.
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Author: larryb
Date: 2013-08-22 03:20
Here's a dentist in Washington Heights that advertises in 802 Notes (I have no idea of the quality of his dentistry, just passing along the info):
Benjamin Metrick
212-795-8989
www.Sound-Dentistry.com
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs172/1101807703206/archive/1114511651105.html
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2013-08-22 14:39
Ken, i'm not sure why you feel you need a "special" dentist as a clarinet player unless you have problems caused by your playing. I've always had pretty healthy teeth so I was never concerned about a special dentist. I've always used someone I was comfy with in general. Playing clarinet for 60 years has never done anything to my teeth. Maybe my brain but not my teeth. :-)
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2013-08-22 15:15
The dentist does need to have a clue when working on people who use their mouths for special purposes. For example, I'm close to a (now-retired) radio announcer. He had a real gift for phoning in his reports from sports venues. His engineer would tell him, for instance, "Fourteen seconds," and he would improvise off his notes and wrap up in exactly fourteen seconds.
But to do that, he needed to be able to talk articulately *very fast.* His dentist, despite explicit warnings and explanations, dismissed his concerns and even belittled him for being so concerned about a "simple" root canal. The dentist treated him like a big baby.
Well, the procedure nicked a nerve and literally tongue-tied this announcer. He couldn't do fast-patter any more. He was able to keep on working, but he wasn't satisfied with his performance and retired early and embittered, thanks to an error that might have been avoided if only the dentist had taken him seriously.
I think any clarinet player can understand why a "simple" job going anywhere near a nerve that can tongue-tie you is important.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2013-08-24 06:27
I don't think that anecdote has much to do with clarinet playing or radio announcing.
It has to do with any person and quality dentistry.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2013-08-24 14:26
The dentist had a good reputation. What he didn't understand was that a minor tongue-tweak that seemed trivial to him, and indeed probably would never bother the average person, could have devastating consequences for a radio announcer. The same would be true for a clarinet player. This man sounds normal when speaking at a normal rate of speed. A pro or advanced amateur wind-player or an announcer who makes a living with an unusual use of the tongue needs a dentist who understands instead of dismissing the concern.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: DougR
Date: 2013-08-24 15:38
IMO, echoing Lelia, it's CRUCIAL to go to a dentist who understands the functioning of the various cranial nerves in and around the jaw, with particular emphasis on what kinds of dental intervention might impair sensation or function, particularly when surgery (e.g. tooth extractions) are involved.
When I had my 4 wisdom teeth yanked a few years ago, I made sure to tell the surgeon I was a musician, and he was kind enough to do a quick 180-degree xray of my jaw to show me exactly where the crucial nerves were, and exactly where he'd be cutting. I kind of think a musician might want a dentist who's both aware of these concerns, and immediately responsive to them.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2013-08-26 01:02
I disagree for general dentistry.
Root canal work does not quite come in that category, because the dentist is operating very, very close to major mouth nerves.
Clean out a root canal not far enough, and slow infection will result.
Clean out past the end of the canal, and the major nerve is damaged.
So surely, you would go to a specialist in the area, rather than a general dentist, i.e. an endodontist.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2013-08-26 04:16
I agree Gordon, and not only that, but doing it the best doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the dentist being familiar with woodwinds, etc.
The example above seems like a mistake (maybe one that was impossible to prevent... statistically speaking) or not doing something the best possible, but nothing to do with anything else really.
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