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Author: Garth Libre
Date: 2013-05-25 18:16
Every once in a while I check Ebay to see what Yamaha CSV Bb clarinets are selling for. I thought I got a great deal for a nearly new one with an unused 4CM mouthpiece, cap and ligature and brand new Protec single clarinet case. I got mine from a local pawn shop and jumped at it for $1,100 out the door. For a long time I thought I was a great bargainer talking him down $400 from asking price. Recent Ebay sales show reapeated failed attempts to sell nice CSV's for prices like $1,800, $1,700, $1,500 or even $1,400 for an OK one in one instance. Albeit, Ebay sales are chancey in that you can't get to try out the horn and have to be willing to just roll the dice. This tends to cause people to be willing to pay less than they would if they got to play the horn and inspect it for a half hour the way I did.
Bear in mind that these clarinets list for $4,000, and regularly sell new for $2,600. For a nearly mint example, shouldn't a CSV sell quickly for about a thousand dollars less than the discounted new price? Perhaps the newer Custom CSG's and SV's have been the main draw for Yamaha.
I had to look a long time to find a clean R-13 for under a thousand dollars, but at least I know I can always recoup my money for this instrument in that R-13's hold their value well. My CSV is not really less of an instrument than my R-13. Why are used Yamaha's such a hard sale?
Garth, 305-981-4705. garthlibre@yahoo.com
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Author: GaryH
Date: 2013-05-25 19:43
There's a CSG that is supposedly unused for under $1500 now. I don't get it unless they are not great clarinets.
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Author: JamesOrlandoGarcia
Date: 2013-05-25 19:56
They are fantastic instruments. It's because the market is brand obsessed. They will be happy playing on a poor quality Buffet instrument over a superb yamaha or other make.
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-05-25 20:07
Garth -- a student of mine bought (on trial) a silver CSG for around $1500ish. Sent it back because they got their hands on a Hamilton plated CSG that belonged to a symphony player -- a much better instrument in this case.
Now that I think about that silver CSG had the most seamless 3rd register that I've ever played. Just a natural extension of the 2nd register.
James
Gnothi Seauton
Post Edited (2013-05-25 20:09)
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2013-05-25 23:17
Greetings,
I looked at both these instruments and they appear to be in excellent shape (one brand new). I have seen one seller posting a lot of very fine instruments in the past so I would tend to think there is little risk for a buyer if not satisfied.
Our friend David Dow in New Brunswick play the CSGs as I recall and loves them. I have a CS Custom which has taken the place of my trusty Leblanc L200 as my no. 1 clarinet. My back-up tenor is a YTS 475 which gives up nothing to my Mark VI. Yamaha makes very fine instruments.
James Garcia is correct about the market obsession for certain brands.
SYL
HRL
Post Edited (2013-05-26 01:16)
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