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 Buffet B16??
Author: Rickwbliss 
Date:   2013-03-29 17:11

Hi guys, I was recently hanging aroung on the internet, and this really weird Chinese website popped up with the title "Buffet B16 student clarinet wholesale" in English. So I was really curious, and I searched it up on Google Images, and there are all those Chinese pictures about Brand New Buffet B16 for $2000 Chinese Dollars(around $300) but when I am on the Buffet website I can't find a thing about "Buffet B16s". Is it a Chinese retail only buffet or is all those pictures/websites/dealers selling, and showing a fake Buffet?
P.S Those "B16s" even got a Buffet Hard Case(similar to B10s'), and a Buffet box that looks the same as every other Buffet boxs.

Oh yeah, here is the link so check it out yourself!
https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=673&q=buffet+b16&oq=buffet+b16&gs_l=img.3..0i24.2097.4557.0.5150.10.9.0.1.1.0.124.788.8j1.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.7.img.97TUOBo_Jt0
And the links of the clarinets from a pretty big Chinese online shop
http://s.taobao.com/search?q=buffet+b16&keyword=&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=item&atype=&tracelog=&sourceId=tb.index&rt=1364576953471&source=haiwaigou&pid=mm_14507416_2297358_8935934&unid=




MY QUESTION IS "ARE THOSE CLARINETS AUTHETIC OR NOT?"



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 Re: Buffet B16??
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2013-03-29 17:25

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=673&q=buffet+b16&oq=buffet+b16&gs_l=img.3..0i24.2097.4557.0.5150.10.9.0.1.1.0.124.788.8j1.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.7.img.97TUOBo_Jt0

http://s.taobao.com/search?q=buffet+b16&keyword=&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=item&atype=&tracelog=&sourceId=tb.index&rt=1364576953471&source=haiwaigou&pid=mm_14507416_2297358_8935934&unid=

The ones in the case with blue fabric lining appear to be authentic B12s, but the ones in the cases with black fabric lining and two barrels are fakes.

There isn't to my knowledge a Buffet B16 - there's the B10, B12 and B13 (with LH Ab/Eb lever), but no B16 according to Buffet catalogues.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2013-03-29 17:25)

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 Re: Buffet B16??
Author: Rickwbliss 
Date:   2013-03-29 17:33

That is what I know too, but under the blue fabric case's buffet logo has the word B16 clearly stamped on it.



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 Re: Buffet B16??
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2013-03-29 17:49

I'm not sure what to make of this - the keywork, plastic adjusting screw and cork thicknesses appear to be identical to genuine B12s, but I've never seen a B16:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.FcrhAw&id=7017509384

This one doesn't have a model number stamped on the top joint, has a really thick stopper cork on the side Eb/Bb key and comes with two barrels, so I don't think it's genuine:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.6.FcrhAw&id=2463065715

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Buffet B16??
Author: Rickwbliss 
Date:   2013-03-29 18:12

Well the one with two barrels claims that his B16 is made in France, so it is obviously fake.



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 Re: Buffet B16??
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2013-03-29 21:17

If you use the Chrome built-in translator on the shop ad it is described at one point as a Buffay B16. They also seem to be offering the E11, B12, Jupiter and Julian Bliss instruments. I wouldn't touch them with a very long pole.

Tony F.

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 Re: Buffet B16??
Author: Steven Ocone 
Date:   2013-03-29 21:52

Think about it. Buffet clarinets are made in France and Germany. These ebay sellers are in China.

Steve Ocone


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