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Author: Scotti
Date: 2011-02-07 01:16
How about that clarinet in the beer ad during the Super Bowl? It sounded like they might have been using a Backun barrel/bell, but I'm not quite sure.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-02-07 10:26
My favorite was the Arby's ad that used Bruckner. Never, NEVER heard Bruckner used commercially in any way shape or form before. Let's hope it's a trend!
....................Paul Aviles
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-02-07 12:33
I noticed classical music in several of those commercials -- Karl Orff's "Carmina Burana" in two unrelated ones. Most of the commercials struck me as lame and some (the one with Timothy Hutton and the Tibetan food in particular, and the ones with people assaulting each other) as pointlessly offensive.
The music with the game -- feh. I missed Christina whatshername flubbing of the lyrics to the National Anthem because I'd already hit Mute by then. I love a good Broadway belter, but listening to that dame torture a tune makes me shudder, literally. I caught the flub on CNN this morning. I'd wondered about the grim unresponsiveness of the football players after she finished -- the clip made that part completely clear. Cthulhu on crack, that woman's a horrible singer.
Didn't much care for the retro-robo Black Eyed Peas halftime thing, either. That glitzy-flashy disco production tried way too hard.
But I did enjoy the game! The Pack is back....
Lelia
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Author: PrincessJ
Date: 2011-02-07 18:31
The game was good, but I think my brain is synchronized perfectly with Lelia's in regards to the commercials and Christina.
I can't stand belting singers unless they have a sweet, warm tone and know how to restrain their volume when necessary.
Christiana's voice is like a Target-brand clarinet to me.
I literally didn't even watch the black eyed peas, they've never appealed to me and they never will, all hollywood is lately is overly-flashy pointless acts (like that one girl who straps strange plastic items to the top of her head and uses sparkles and lights to cover up a talentless act) and that being my subject-to-controversy view, I will now run for cover.
All I heard was the clarinet in the beer ad that the OP suggested. I wasn't thinking Backun though.
-Jenn
Circa 1940s Zebra Pan Am
1972 Noblet Paris 27
Leblanc Bliss 210
1928 Selmer Full Boehm in A
Amateur tech, amateur clarinetist, looking to learn!
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Author: justme
Date: 2011-02-08 04:19
Princess J said: " Christiana's voice is like a Target-brand clarinet to me."
OUCH! ![[whoa]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie10.gif)
Just Me
"A critic is like a eunuch: he knows exactly how it ought to be done."
CLARINET, n.
An instrument of torture operated by a person with cotton in his ears. There are two instruments that are worse than a clarinet -- two clarinets
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Author: clarinetist04
Date: 2011-02-09 02:20
You know, if they want to use classical music, that's cool, but I can't say that I care much for Bruckner - unless I'm trying to put myself to sleep. Now, get a little Stravinsky in there and I'd be all over that!
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-02-09 14:27
Some of the excerpts from Carmina Burana were pretty exciting, though. Not sure if the advertisers knew just how exciting. Or maybe they do know and simply assumed (probably correctly) that most of the viewers wouldn't recognize it as the accompaniment to a fertility orgy.
>>Now, get a little Stravinsky in there and I'd be all over that!>>
Sure -- if the advertisers dig those pagan orgies, they could use the Rite of Spring!
Lelia
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-02-09 15:00
I think it would be just about impossible to notice if someone is playing on the Backun bells and barrels by just hearing them on a commercial or recording for that matter. I am a Backun supporter using them on most of my clarinets but unless you heard a player play without them and then switch to them I don't think it's possible to tell what someone is using and that would go for ligatures, reeds, mouthpieces and even clarinet types and models. Everyone has their own sound, or at least should. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
PS. Christina A. was a disgrace in every way possible. The facial expressions, the terrible pitch, getting the words wrong. How stupid and disrespectful can a singer be when singing our national anthem to over a hundred million people that they can't try to do it in a conventional way. I could forgive her if she just made a mistake but to put her "personal" touch on it is unforgiving to me.
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Author: chorusgirl
Date: 2011-02-09 18:11
But this is what *they* all do now - when was the last time you heard (at any professional ball game) someone singing the SSB how it SHOULD be sung? For them, it is yet another opportunity to just show off (or so they think) their voice, it is no longer about paying respect to our national anthem and to our country. It is a shame.
Heck, we don't even teach it in schools anymore (and I know - i'm a teacher. Yes, I teach it in my classes, but I don't teach every child in the school.)
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2011-02-10 01:12
Chorusgirl, I agree. I am tired of seeing people using a song that is meant to help us focus on the flag and feel pride for our country as a personal showcase for their entertainment-oriented vocal interpretations. It's not a concert stage--it's a reflective tribute to all our flag represents.
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Author: PrincessJ
Date: 2011-02-10 09:12
I agree wholeheartedly, Claire Annette.
Entertainment has it's time and place - respect and depth come first in this case.
Christina sung the song in such a way to distract from the meaning.
She sounded like a cat with it's tail being yanked repeatedly.
Remember, it's not America that is stupid, it is the ever changing degree of viewpoint of it's inhabitants. It's about choices you make in life, not about the choices uncle sam makes for you. He can only do so much to hold you back, you have to work with and enjoy what is in your reach.
And I'd say, a room full of clarinets and some $$ leaves me plenty satisfied.
(Oh no! Slap me! Politics and ethics! *runs and dodges bullets*)
-Jenn
Circa 1940s Zebra Pan Am
1972 Noblet Paris 27
Leblanc Bliss 210
1928 Selmer Full Boehm in A
Amateur tech, amateur clarinetist, looking to learn!
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-02-10 10:15
As an opposing viewpoint:
The "hippest" National Anthem ever was Marvin Gaye at the NBA All-Star Game ..... period.
I certainly don't think any music is above some interpretive tweaking (Stokowski didn't think so either). And if ya'll want to get technical about it, our National Anthem is a old English drinking song. So maybe we are the one's besmirching it's true character.
..................Paul Aviles
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-02-10 11:43
I don't mind a certain amount of "interpretive tweaking," but this one went too far, making the song nearly unrecognizable, and in such a "Look at me-me-meeeee" way. Someone wrote a letter to the Washington Post today about a memorable experience of the crowd, instead of a soloist, singing the anthem. It's too bad the anthem requires a range that's out of the question for most untrained singers (and for a lot of trained ones, too). That difficulty makes a strong temptation, for singers who do have the range, to monkey with the tune. I especially dislike it when they break the last word of "land of the freeeee-HEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" into two syllables and yank the last one up an octave just to show off -- sounds ludicrous. I'd prefer to replace this jingoistic anthem anyway, but as long as we're stuck with it, the least singers could do is keep their overstuffed egos out of it. It's not all about them.
Lelia
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Author: chorusgirl
Date: 2011-02-10 13:32
Paul -
OK, I will concede that his interpretation of the song was something unique. What the difference is, I think, is that when Marvin Gaye sang it, one had the sense that he was truly interpreting the text and trying to add to the meaning of what he was singing. Listen carefully to what he accentuate, elongates, etc. and it is clear that this was not about him, it was about the meaning of what he was singing about.
Nowadays, pop artists who sing the anthem seem to be all about vocal gymnastics. I never get the sense that any of them are paying one whit of attention to what the piece represents, and why they are singing it.
That, to me, is what really makes the difference when I hear it sung. Is it heartfelt, is it interpreted properly, and is that message being conveyed to the audience? Is is respectful? Or is it just another opportunity exploit the piece of music for one's own personal gain?
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2011-02-10 14:53
Is anyone old enough to remember the second Ali-Liston fight in Lewiston, Maine? Robert Goulet, who was pretty good, sang about "the dawn's early night."
However, I did think Christina whatshername was disgracefully bad. Even Roseanne Barr did it better.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Dori
Date: 2011-02-10 18:59
Ken Shaw wrote:
> Is anyone old enough to remember the second Ali-Liston fight in
> Lewiston, Maine? Robert Goulet, who was pretty good, sang
> about "the dawn's early night."
I'm showing my age here, but I remember one my teachers commenting in Robert Goulet's defense that he is not American (He's Canadian), and I think he was asked to sing on short notice. We may have to cut him some slack for his error, but what is Christina's excuse?
Add me to the list of people who were disappointed with the halftime show. Whay was the female singer always bending over?
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-02-11 13:27
>>Whay was the female singer always bending over?
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And why was her mic dead when she started her first solo? With a budget that lavish, for a show that wildly over-produced (Recession? What recession?), you'd think the crew could manage to turn on her sound.
Lelia
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Post Edited (2011-02-11 13:28)
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