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Author: srattle
Date: 2010-12-29 21:07
Hi everyone,
I've been asked to give a list of Concerti that I could play, and direct/conduct myself.
Any ideas? Obviously Mozart could work. Probably also the Weber concerti/concertino and the concerti from the Stamitz family.
Anything I might be missing that would work?
Thanks
Sacha
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2010-12-29 21:11
Crusell and really any other Classical/early romantic concerti. Don't forget the Baroque concerti also
Peter Cigleris
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2010-12-29 21:57
But the Artie Shaw concerto is slightly dull as a piece. If your gonna direct aswell as play the solo then you should pick something with real musical depth such as the Mozart but that's just my humble opinion.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: MarlboroughMan
Date: 2010-12-29 22:02
There are plenty of concerti whose main performance virtue is virtuosity itself. Not every piece has the emotional depth of Mozart or Finzi.
The Artie Shaw concerto is every bit the equal of the great showpieces of the European tradition, with the added benefit that, being from the American jazz idiom, it is actually unique and interesting!
Only dull players make the Shaw concerto dull, in my opinion.
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Author: srattle
Date: 2010-12-29 22:34
I don't think I would be willing to conduct and perform Artie Shaw Concerto with just any orchestra. . .I think dealing with performing and managing 1920s American popular music styling with a group that is most likely unfamiliar with it would be a lot to deal with. Most of the people playing in that clip with Artie I'm sure are from his band and basically don't need traditional conducting at all. . . not really fair to compare that.
Any more suggestions? This is good!
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2010-12-29 23:05
Eric wrote:
"Only dull players make the Shaw concerto dull, in my opinion"
Not sure if that's a dig at me.
I understand your point but really it's not a concerto in the true sense of the word or indeed form. The point of that piece was to showcase Artie Shaw himself and certain sections of his band. There I'd more to "Western" concertos than the soloists that inspired them. IMHO there is no depth in Shaw's work other than to show off himself.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: MarlboroughMan
Date: 2010-12-30 00:30
Peter:
No dig intended at you at all--from the clips you've posted here I think you're a fine player, sincerely. But honestly it would take a very dull player to make the Shaw a dull piece.
I think it's a very exciting piece from a stylistic standpoint, especially when considering the many virtuosic glissandi. If one bothers to think through the possibilities of improvised solos, it become even more interesting.
And isn't there something of value in the sheer brash, optimistic, youthful bravado of the piece? I think so, at any rate--those emotions have their place. Crowds love it, and it does more than show off Shaw--it shows off the clarinet itself from a different perspective than any piece before it. I would actually consider it one of the more indispensable pieces of the 20th century repertoire.
As to the form, granted use of the term "Concerto" was a bit tongue in cheek for its day. But the fact is it has been programmed precisely as a concerto now for over a generation, often by well established symphony players. And you'll note that its form is just as legitimate (or, if you prefer, illegitimate) as the Copland Concerto. Both are comprised of a slow introduction, cadenza, directly linked to a fast section. Copland's is obviously the more 'profound' piece, but hardly an orthodox 18th/19th century form.
Eric
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Post Edited (2011-01-22 20:51)
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Author: Pastor Rob
Date: 2010-12-30 04:33
Carson Cooman's lyric pieces aren't a concerto work, but they certainly move me. He apparently has written a clarinet concerto but I haven't found a copy of it yet. He may be a young composer but I love what I have heard of his stuff.
Pastor Rob Oetman
Leblanc LL (today)
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Author: Sarah Elbaz
Date: 2010-12-30 19:19
Rossini- Introduction, theme and Variation can be directed by the soloist.
Sarah
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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2011-01-01 20:51
Weber's 2nd is easy to get together- I had to do this without rehearsal when our conductor got sick the morning of a concert. (We don't have an assistant conductor.) If you like the novelty of a D clarinet concerto, one of the Molter concerti would also work.
Chris
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Author: clarinetist04
Date: 2011-01-06 03:00
Pastor Rob:
Carson's music is nice. I recall when Angela Occhionero premiered his Concerto during her senior recital at Carnegie Mellon. It is published by Lauren Keiser Music. I participated in the premiere of his wind ensemble piece Dawn Game and it is very characteristic of his work. Extremely lyrical.
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Author: donald
Date: 2011-01-06 08:58
the Johann Stamitz concerto, parts are easily available
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