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 rubber clarinets
Author: rossbu 
Date:   2010-01-06 10:57

Hi all,

I'm curious - I have one of Tom's Lyrique clarinets - a fine instrument! Over time has there been other manufacturers/makers of hard rubber clarinets?


thanks,


Burt

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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: kilo 
Date:   2010-01-06 12:43

It's been a pretty common material for clarinet construction, at least as far back as the '20s. Boosey & Hawkes, Couesnon, Kohlert, Selmer, and a host of other manufacturers made rubber clarinets.

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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: Joarkh 
Date:   2010-01-06 14:50

Do these makers still make rubber clarinets, or is Ridenour the only maker of rubber clarinets today?

Joar
Clarinet and saxophone teacher, clarinet freelancer


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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2010-01-06 14:56

There is at least one other, but i can't recall the maker at the moment.

jeff

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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: Joarkh 
Date:   2010-01-06 18:32

Wikipedia article on the clarinet:

"Clarinet designers Alastair Hanson and Tom Ridenour are strong advocates of hard rubber."

Alastair Hanson apparently makes ebonite (hard rubber) clarinets: http://www.hansonclarinets.com/clarinet%20making/Materials.html

http://www.hansonclarinets.com/Hanson_Clarinet_Company._Making_Music_in_Great_Britain./Home.html

Joar
Clarinet and saxophone teacher, clarinet freelancer


Post Edited (2010-01-06 18:33)

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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: justme 
Date:   2010-01-07 06:00

What's also interesting to me after looking at the hanson site is not only do they have ebonite clarinets, but Reinforced Grenadilla.
It's a layered blend of mixture of Grenadilla and ebonite. They have it in their pro line as well:

http://www.hansonclarinets.com/Hanson_Clarinet_Company._Making_Music_in_Great_Britain./Professional.html




Just Me



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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2010-01-07 10:48

What's even more interesting is that they have bass clarinets - at least in their price list.

--
Ben

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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: Joarkh 
Date:   2010-01-07 13:40

Why is that so interesting?

And they don't seem to produce ebonite E flat clarinets - do anyone manufacture these?

Joar
Clarinet and saxophone teacher, clarinet freelancer


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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2010-01-07 13:54

I would guess Ben finds it interesting because he plays the bass clarinet.

Jeff

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 Re: rubber clarinets
Author: john connor 
Date:   2010-01-07 14:25

I have a Ridenour Lyrique and a Hanson Se5 in ebonite. That's the intermediate Hanson hard rubber.

The Lyrique has grown on me, mainly because it's so perfectly in tune and so even across the registers - very easy to play, I think. It has a very bright tone, to me - brighter than I want (it's similar to an R13 tone, I think), but this is a fairly typical French small bore sound, I guess (I seem to prefer bigger bore instruments, but the Lyrique type sound is very common and popular, I think, so I wouldn't fault the instrument at all).

The Hanson has a much fuller, darker tone, which I prefer, BUT, the intonation is no good for me. It's terribly flat in the throat. So I'll sell it on, I think. I think a 400 quid hard rubber horn should arrive in tune, as claimed it will by the manufacturer, of course.

For what it's worth I think Hanson are terrible at answering email queries of whatever sort (whereas Ridenour does answer, though sometimes he can be slow, Hanson just don't answer). Others here have said this too. (And again others have said they have found no problem, I realise...). I wouldn't recommend them on the basis of communications.

Or intonation (at least in the cheaper horns). I had one of their student models too and I felt for the students in the UK who were struggling with that intonation. And - I should say - this is from a company that makes all their own stuff - the whole horn is made in the UK (maybe the hard rubber blocks are bought elsewhere - as grenadilla is bought elsewhere too - but it's milled in the UK), not in China, like Ridenour's far superior instrument.

I rang Hanson and asked about the bass, by the way (you can't always get someone by ringing either) and it didn't seem to be available. Yet? Who knows. The man I spoke to wasn't very informative. He has told me more than once that I 'need to speak to Alastair', who is the owner, designer and clarinet expert, I believe. But Alastair is an even harder man to get hold of. I'm calling them from Belgium (and mailing from there). They're in Yorkshire, UK. Shouldn't be difficult. Just some info, for what it's worth.

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