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 benny goodman's clarinet
Author: rtmyth 
Date:   2009-03-22 20:07

Major article in April issue of The Smithsonian.

richard smith

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: GBK 
Date:   2009-03-22 20:18

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/The-Object-at-Hand-1967-Buffet-Crampon.html

...GBK

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2009-03-22 20:53

For those who just like to look at the pictures: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/multimedia/photos/?articleID=41376737&c=y

And here he is with a Selmer:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/multimedia/photos/?c=y&articleID=41376737&page=2

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: weberfan 
Date:   2009-03-22 20:58




The Smithsonian article seems hardly to be definitive.
For instance, the musical instruments collection at the Metropolitan Museum of Art contains, among its many clarinets, a dusty Buffet (it looks to be an R13), that Goodman played in the 1980's. Of course, I'm sure he had more than one clarinet and more than one Buffet.

Does anyone know if any of his Selmer clarinets were donated to museum collections?

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: marshall 
Date:   2009-03-23 05:05

You can see a couple of his clarinets in New York...there's one at the Met and one in Carnegie.

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinetS
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2009-03-23 16:51

Haven't we discussed this before ?? I seem to recall from our archives {Search} that ?most? of BG's ?many? cls were Selmers, BT, CT [especially] and perhaps some of the 10's [larger bores?] . No doubt he "tried" the Buffets several times, perhaps before and after the Carree bore improvements ? I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't at least "check out" some Leblancs as well. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2009-03-23 18:18

The portrait of BG shows him holding a clarinet with a Selmer sunburst logo on the bell.

The clarinet in the Smithsonian collection shows no recognizable logo, but is certainly consistent with the Buffet design. I think it's an A clarinet, since the distance between the right index and middle finger holes is wider than on Bb instruments.

After BG studied with Reginald Kell, he followed Kell's preference for turning the ligature 45 degrees, so that only two horizontal metal bands touched the reed, and at least for a while he used a B&H clarinet, probably a 1010, which is recognizable from the smooth bands on the barrel, lower joint and bell, no bottom ring on the bell and a slightly pear-shaped barrel. I've seen a very clear photo, but can't find it. Less good ones are at http://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/ICON-BGO-10092-flat.jpg, http://ring.cdandlp.com/cdandlp/bdr/reference_image/photo_petite/10612.jpg, http://img2.photographersdirect.com/img/262/wm/pd654323.jpg.

I don't recall any photo of BG with a Leblanc.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2009-03-23 19:03

I believe I have an old RCS album where it looks like a Boosey barrell on a Buffet so maybe he was up to some hocus pocus..

David Dow

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2009-03-23 19:14

David -

Please post a scan or a link.

Thanks.

Ken Shaw



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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2009-03-23 19:50

In a conversation I had less than a year ago with a long retired principal player in one of our major UK orchestras (and a lifelong player of B&H 926 and 1010 instruments) he told me that B&H had made 3 special 1010's a long while back which had the low Eb fitted but no other part of the "full boehm" mechanism. These were intended for Brian Manton-Myatt (for many years B&H head of woodwind design), Reg Kell and Benny Goodman.
I had never previously come across any connection between Benny and B&H so was intrigued to learn of this and now to see a photo of him with what looks just like a B&H instrument. Unfortunately not enough of instrument shown to see if it does indeed have the low Eb.



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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2009-03-23 19:56

This photo shows him with a standard (low E) model:
http://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/ICON-BGO-10092-flat.jpg

And a Selmer: http://img2.photographersdirect.com/img/262/wm/pd654323.jpg

One of many album photos of the elderly Benny Goodman shows him with a Buffet.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: GBK 
Date:   2009-03-23 20:00

After starting on a Penzel-Mueller, Benny Goodman used at least four different clarinets at various stages of his career.

He used a Selmer BT, a Selmer CT, a Boosey and Hawkes 1010 (after he studied with Kell), and (briefly) a Buffet, originally set up by Moennig.

...GBK

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2009-03-23 20:08

Clarinet in that photo does have a ringless bell but rim profile of that bell does not look thick enough for a 1010 as I recall them and even the bulbous "pear shape" of the barrel does not look like the standard 1010 shape where the major thickness is usually much nearer the centre portion.
I guess we need some better quality definition photos to properly judge.



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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2009-03-23 20:17

And not like the earlier 1010 barrel which is narrow and slightly curved in a single curve or ( )-shaped, not pear-shaped.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Travis 
Date:   2009-03-23 20:41

This book (which I own) has a very clear copy of this photo taken in 1946 with Benny holding a Selmer clarinet that does not appear to have any model designation (R.I., B.T., Centered Tone). I'm guessing it may be an N-Series Selmer (of which I am a proud owner). According to clarinetperfection.com the N-Series started production in 1946 - same year the photo was taken.



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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: kilo 
Date:   2009-03-24 00:09

I've put this one up before but it might be of interest; it's my mother with Goodman, 1945:
http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/46334/2005518728755661416_rs.jpg

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2009-03-24 17:39

When I read the book Swing, Swing, Swing (which I recommend) I seem to remember that the Buffet clarinet was obtained for a Carnegie Hall performance of classical clarinet, but up to to that time he prefered his Selmer Center-Tone. Does anyone remember this? I'll have to look in my library and see if my friend returned my copy of the book to check for sure. The photo in that book was also of his Selmer.

The biggest thing to me is that he "practiced all the time...even during commercial breaks during the world series."



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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2009-03-24 18:32

Just had a look at the photo and the pillar placement for the LH F/C key isn't as B&H did it:
http://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/ICON-BGO-10092-flat.jpg

Compare witht the B&H lower joints:
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/BH/1946Imperial/02.jpg
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/BH/Edgeware/3.jpg

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2009-03-24 18:36)

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 Re: benny goodman's clarinet
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2009-03-24 19:04

The cover was red in the background...I thought maybe I was crazy but the barrell seemed different from the clarinet.

David Dow

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