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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2000-10-05 03:55
As advised by Aaron about Luyben ligature, I tried Luyben. The result was dissapointing. IMHO:
1. It picks up too much higher harmonics elements and my clarinet sounded somewhat cheaper.
2. It jeopadizes the effects of Greg Smith mouthpiece and Chadash barrel. Their complicated wave shapes of these are somewhat smoothed in bad senses.
Of course this is my personal feeling. FYI.
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Author: Ken
Date: 2000-10-05 11:51
There are countless wrap-around toys infesting the market like so many bottles of cheap wine. I concur with Hiroshi on poor tone reproduction, stable vibration and harmonic sensitivity throughout harmonic succession. However, I've discovered this ligature is excellent for conditioning new reeds quickly and efficiently. By design and composition it's extremely forgiving and flexible, and I can literally cut three days off my break-in time. It also seems to birth one extra "recital quality reed you'd die for" out of each box. After it's served it's purpose, I'm always back to my BG Gold.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-10-05 12:12
However, you'll find some well-respected professionals using this ligature. As we all keep saying - try it yourself. It may or may not work for you, since it's a very individual thing. Quality and price are not necessarily related.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2000-10-05 13:41
Luyben liteature says that the ligature must be screwed as tight as possible, which I have found to be true. Those final turns make a big difference.
But nothing beats string.
Ken Shaw
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Author: William
Date: 2000-10-05 14:15
I also agree with H. regarding the Luyben, but what Mark says is also true. FYI--for me, it's the Winslow, on all of my clarinets and saxophones. After-thought--also on my list of tried but do not like list are the Rovners, Bays, VD Optimum, BGs and Harrison. I guess W. S. could have advised, "To thin own ligiture, be true."
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Author: bob gardner
Date: 2000-10-05 20:59
Ken stated that the lig. must be really tight. Is this true on all lig or just the one in question. It was my understanding that the lig. should not be to tight --the reed my be able to vibrate.
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Author: Dee
Date: 2000-10-05 22:53
Well I do not screw my Luyben really tight. It works just fine on my 5RV mouthpiece. It would be way too easy to strip the threads in the plastic if you screwed it as tight as possible anyway.
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Author: drew
Date: 2000-10-06 00:27
In my distant youth I used a Selmer two screw ligature, and routinely tightened the screws to the maximum extent, apparently in an attempt to crush the reed or mouthpiece. The sound was a bit dampened, but otherwise no effect.
Many years later I read Pino's book which recommended using a shoelace ligature. I figured that this method probably wouldn't put much pressure on the reed, so I had the idea of experimenting with lower pressure. Currently I'm using a poly Robert Vinson ligature, which puts minimum pressure on the reed and mouthpiece. Results are better than the Selmer "Crush" method, and reduces the right of warping the mouthpiece.
It may have been Bonade who, when questioned about the importance of ligatures, stated that they were quite important, without them he would need to use his thumb to keep the reed on the mouthpiece.
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Author: Nate Zeien
Date: 2000-10-06 00:54
I myself, have tried Luyben ligs before, but did not much care for them. This doesn't mean that they aren't good ligs; they do work quite well. It just wasn't the lig for me. I have to agree with Ken, I have yet to find anything better than string. The string takes a little bit more time and patience, but I think it's worth it. Another thing - It's inexpensive! You don't have to spend 50 bucks to try this one out. I've had nothing but bad luck trying to get string to hold to a crystal mouthpiece - any suggestions? If you're looking for convenience, the Rovners aren't too bad. Just my opinion.... -- Nate Zeien
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Author: beejay
Date: 2000-10-06 13:55
I don't get any commission from Peter Spriggs for saying this, but I think his ligature is the best I ever tried. It puts very little pressure on the reed and makes it exceptionally easy to blow. I would say, however, that either the Rovner or the BG-type ligatures give a slightly darker tone, but I love the airy feeling of the Spriggs. .
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-10-06 14:24
beejay wrote:
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> I would say, however, that either
> the Rovner or the BG-type ligatures give a slightly darker
> tone, but I love the airy feeling of the Spriggs. .
It was (as I remarked in an old posting) completely opposite that on my Selmer 10G. The Spriggs was "darker" than the Rovner. Surprising, but true.
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