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Author: Tb0b
Date: 2000-09-10 23:42
I purchased a new bufet R13 clarinet last week and it's very hard to put together. I tried using a lot of cork grease and it's really hard. what can i do?
can i damage the keys by holding on them hard when putting to gether and taking apart my clarinet? that's the only way i can do it
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-09-10 23:55
Tb0b wrote:
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what can i do?
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Take it back and have them shave the cork.
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can i damage the keys by holding on them hard when putting to gether and taking apart my clarinet?
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Yes - it's the best way to get them bent!
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Author: Nate Zeien
Date: 2000-09-11 04:37
TbOb, as Mark said, go to a repair tech and have them fix it. It may not necessarily be the cork, though. Shortly after I got my R-13, I had a slight problem with the joint between the lower joint and the bell. Rather than it being the cork, it was actually the wood that was causing the problem. I took it to a repair tech, and had this fixed. Also, when I got my new R-13, it took a little while to work the cork grease in; but if it is so bad that you need to worry about bending the keys, take it in to have it fixed. If it's where you bought the clarinet, you can probably have this done for free. Even if you don't know whether the problem is serious or not, it doesn't hurt to bring to the shop and have them look at it, this is a good way to prevent damaging your clarinet. They'll tell you if you just need cork grease. Sometimes they can make it work better by putting parrifin wax on the tenon corks. Anyway, just bring it to a repair tech. Good luck! -- Nate Zeien
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Author: Graham Elliott
Date: 2000-09-11 17:03
I want to know how they could have tested the clarinet in the factory if it is not possible to put it together. I am surprised an R 13 escaped form the factory with this type of fault.
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Author: Nate Zeien
Date: 2000-09-11 17:48
Graham, in reply to your question, it may not be something that escaped the factory. Sometimes music stores will give the cork an extremely light sanding. This is just enough to take the cork grease off and give it a nice new look, but it also makes it hard to put together. After the cork grease has been taken off, one has to take the time to work it in. Another thing that happen, is during the humid summer months, like now, the joints can swell just enough to make it hard to put together. If it is the corks that are the problem, and they are just a little bit too snug, you can take parrafin wax and put on the cork BEFORE the cork grease. This not only makes it easier to put the instrument together, but also makes the cork and cork grease last longer. --- Nate Zeien
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Author: Bill
Date: 2000-09-11 22:04
Nate: I read this post this morning out of curiosity, since I didn't have a clarinet at the moment.
My first clarinet, a plastic Yamaha CL-20 arrived this afternoon. Wouldn't you know it, the same problem with the cork grease applied. I cleaned off the cork grease, rubbed in some parafin, added cork grease, and it's a lot better. Thanks for the tip.
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Author: Jim
Date: 2000-09-14 05:09
I purchased an R13 for my son the first week of August. It had been play tested by the dealer, and fit fine for the first week. Then the lower joint to bell tennon stuck and couldn't be separated. It was returned for service and all 3 tenons were shaved. The problem was with the wood shoulder between the cork and the body of the piece. Yes.. It was very humid here in NJ, but the instrument was in an air conditioned house the entire time. Also, it was not played more than 30 minutes a day. It seems that Buffet might need to pay a bit more attention to the fit of these pieces.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-09-14 12:07
Jim wrote:
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<br>It seems that Buffet might need to pay a bit more attention to the fit of these pieces.
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<br>This is a problem with <b>all</b> finely manufactured pieces of wood. In fine furniture and the like the wood is given free movement at some point to expand and contract. In clarinets we want tolerances down to a couple of thousandths, meaning we don't give it any room to grow.
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<br>Once that clarinet is used the wood will move a bit, and those couple of thousandths get used up. The problem you saw is because of too fine a tolerance, not sloppy work.
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<br>The exact same thing happened on my Selmer 10G a year after it was purchased (hanging up on the shoulder).
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