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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2007-11-11 21:03
TYRO clarinet. Any reviews or comments, please?? Sponsered by Lurie; made in China. hard rubber.
richard smith
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2007-11-12 13:59
Is this one of those Clarinet Shaped Objects? The name does not inspire confidence. Why not call it a newbie? 
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: James Langdell
Date: 2007-11-12 17:08
I've been curious about Lurie's Tyro clarinet, but haven't tried one.
I came across this web site for the instrument:
http://www.mlclarinet.com/index.html
--James
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2007-11-13 12:22
They've named a musical instrument the Tyro?! ![[rotate]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley25.gif) Unbelievable! Do the manufacturers know what "tyro" means in English or is this a little joke or what?
Assuming the manufacturers do know what the word means, it warns me (and anybody else who's not a beginner) away from this instrument. If they don't know what it means, they need to research what happened a couple of decades ago when Chevrolet introduced the Nova model car...in Mexico. Company moguls couldn't figure out why the car didn't sell down there until somebody pointed out, about half a year too late, that "No va" means "Won't go" in Spanish.
"tyro: An inexperienced person; a beginner; a neophyte."
--American Heritage Dictionary, Second College Edition.
That dry definition, alas, doesn't pick up on the secondary meaning of a word with some unfortunate associations, because, more often than not, it's used to demean somebody who's acting uppity: "The way she brags, you'd think she's a great player, but she's nothing but a tyro."
Lelia
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-11-13 12:40
Lelia Loban wrote:
> Assuming the manufacturers do know what the word means, it
> warns me (and anybody else who's not a beginner) away from this
> instrument. If they don't know what it means, they need to
> research what happened a couple of decades ago when Chevrolet
> introduced the Nova model car...in Mexico. Company moguls
> couldn't figure out why the car didn't sell down there until
> somebody pointed out, about half a year too late, that "No va"
> means "Won't go" in Spanish.
Similar to the Citroën automobile:
(from Wikipedia)
Citroën's originally Dutch family name was Citroen, meaning "lemon," as one of his grandfathers was a citrus seller in Amsterdam's street markets. An old-fashioned nickname for Citroën cars is "Citron" (lemon in French). Oddly enough in English, "lemon" is a slang term for an unreliable or problematic car.
...GBK
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2007-11-13 12:52
<<Do the manufacturers know what "tyro" means in English or is this a little joke or what?>>
Lelia is right. And even if this instrument is designed for a beginner (which it apparently is), there is a certain linguistic tone-deafness in the choice of the name, because "tyro" carries a pejorative connotation in its usage, the way "noob" or "poser" or "wannabe" is negative -- someone not sophisticated enough to understand the ramifications of their choice or behavior and thus prone to making stupid mistakes.
"Haven't got a clue? Then the TYRO is the instrument for you!" (And while you're at it, how about buying the Brooklyn Bridge?)
But hey, we've all been there, right?
Susan
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2007-11-13 13:37
TKS to all, fine lessons in name-selection, I was quickly "turned-off" by TYR---- and its ?connotations?. Will look in dicts. for definition of "c--" Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: clockwiser
Date: 2007-11-13 17:31
Yamaha makes TYRO keyboards, and they are still very very popular...
I do not care about the name.
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Author: claritoot26
Date: 2007-11-14 18:54
Sorry about the diversion, but this reminds me of my husband's old car, the Ford Aspire. Our joke was that it aspired to be an actual vehicle. :-)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2007-11-14 19:03
claritoot26 wrote:
> Sorry about the diversion, but this reminds me of my husband's
> old car, the Ford Aspire. Our joke was that it aspired to be
> an actual vehicle. :-)
The more common one was to mispronounce it as a "Ford Expire".
Mark C.
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