Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 
 A, B, and C (above staff) flat on R-13
Author: Bill 
Date:   2000-07-26 18:25

Strangely, I've only recently tried to understand why my R-13 is flat on these three tones just at the top of the staff. They are consistently flat with a variety of mpcs. (some more than others, of course) and, although less so, are still flat with a stiff new reed. Using the RH trill key sharpens them up too much. This is not a special problen on my Series 9 Selmer or any of the other blackwood laying around. Even my Buffet A is more in tune here than the Bb. Help!

Bill
Washington, DC

Reply To Message
 
 RE: A, B, and C (above staff) flat on R-13
Author: William 
Date:   2000-07-26 20:24

Sharp to what?? Try pulling the middle joint to lower the right-hand notes. Then, tune your 2nd line open G. If that is flat, try a shorter barrel to raise the pitch of the entire horn (your A barrel may do the trick). By the way, the A barrel is the shorter of the two barrels. Good luck. Let us know what happens.

Reply To Message
 
 RE: A, B, and C (above staff) flat on R-13
Author: William 
Date:   2000-07-26 20:27

OOPS!!!! I meant to say, Flat to what. Now my advice should make more sense. Good luck.

Reply To Message
 
 RE: A, B, and C (above staff) --bill oflat on R-13
Author: Bob Gardner 
Date:   2000-07-26 20:50

Dear mister president--In regards to your flat notes on a clarinet--I was led to believe that you played the saxaphone. So maybe this is your problem. i know that you are trying to straighten out the mess in washington, d.c. but using a clarinet rather then a saxaphone is not the answer.
Smile.
bob

Reply To Message
 
 RE: A, B, and C (above staff) --bill oflat on R-13
Author: Bill 
Date:   2000-07-26 21:24

This is great! Very funny. I heard a good joke about Mr. Prez and Hillary but it reqires a "hand symbol" for the telling. The joke is on us, however, when Bush becomes president. That's when laughter will combine with tears.

My a-b-c upper clarion is flat (1) as it sounds to me, and (2) according to my tuner. It's quite noticable.

Bill "X"
16th & Pennsylvania Aves.,
Washington, DC

Reply To Message
 
 RE: A, B, and C (above staff) flat on R-13
Author: ken 
Date:   2000-07-28 00:19

Bill, thought you could use a more useful suggestion. This might sound bizarre but stranger things have happened. I had sudden pitch problems with those particular notes once with my mechanically perfect 2-year old R-13. First, focus your attention on the upper joint and visibly check the pads to make sure they're seeding properly, not peeling or discolored and aren't leaking...especially the upper cluster/teardrop keys/pads and "side C" pad. Take the upper joint ONLY, cover all the tone holes and connecting hole at the bottom with a finger from your right hand and the top hole with your mouth. Create suction/seal and pressure, sucking up. If there's a leak you'll hear it/feel it coming out of a bad pad. Next troubleshoot is unscrewing/removing your register key and check the hole for dust/lint/built-up crud...there's a remote possibility that could be your pitch culprit right there and a quick fix, especially if it's just those notes, although the clarion A, Bb, B natural and high C would play flat as well. If that's it, try blowing it clean, if that doesn't do the trick get a sewing needle at least 3/4" long and carefully insert it, rotate it around the edges and through the middle to clean it out. You could also dip it in rubbing alcohol to help dissolve anything lodged inside. Also check your thumb hole too, it might contain foreign matter as well.

Another thought, older horns (if you have one and believe in a horn getting "blown-out" over time and use) inherantly
begin going flat in those partials first, usually because that's where the lions-share of condensation/warp-age occurs. Example: Larry Combs does believe in clarinets
blowing-out, becoming dull and lackluster and swaps-out a new horn at least every five years. Of course, it's easy for him because he doesn't have to pay for them...hehe. Another consideration beyond equipment is you could be developing a slight problem with "air stream" and an adjustment or a return to long tones in your practice routine is in order. However, if your an experienced player and established strong fundamentals early on, that's certainly not the case and it really is equipment.

The absolute best! <:-)

Reply To Message
 
 RE: A, B, and C (above staff) flat on R-13
Author: Bill 
Date:   2000-07-31 21:10

Ken,

Thnx. for the suggestions! This is a pretty new R-13. I will check out the pads and the reg. key area. I just have to laugh when I think the R-13 is touted as such an intonational improvement for players. I have a 1961 Selmer that is so much more in tune in the upper clarion. Thnx. again! --Bill.

Reply To Message
 Avail. Forums  |  Threaded View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org