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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-09-14 18:19
Hey Guys:
My girlfriend came back with a Yamaha catalogue and now I have more questions than answers:
Hamilton Keys are a gold/nickel alloy - Does that mean it's as hard as gold?
Valencia pads with nylon buttons - is this pad just another fish skin pad?
Are Valencia pads synthetic like the Valentino?
Are the nylon buttons resonators like saxophone pads?
56mm barrel - is there a good acoustic reason for making the barrel a centimeter shorter (and yes I realize the top joint is correspondingly longer)?
I'm considering dropping the the whole French made clarinet thing (selling the R13, giving up on the Leblanc Concerto). Anyone else go Japanese???
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-09-14 19:10
Paul Aviles wrote:
> Anyone else go Japanese???
All of my cars have always been Toyotas and my wife just got a new Mazda. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
Although new discussion of the Yamaha CSG is welcomed, you might also check through the archives for the MANY threads we've had about this clarinet...GBK
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Author: clarinet60
Date: 2006-09-14 19:48
Paul,
I can't answer the technical questions but I have played on the CSG at some music educator conventions and found it to play beautifully. In my opinion, tt has a very controlled sound compared to my R13's, especially in the upper register. They are definitely worth a try.
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2006-09-14 22:29
Paul, do not know about the pads but the barrels are shorter because the top joint is longer and has attributes of the German clarinet bores. The barrels seem to be a chore to find the right one in length and bore taper. At the Oklahoma Clarinet Symposium a year ago the Yamaha technician had a box full of barrels and was trying to find the most accepted type for further production models - they may have straightened this issue out by now but they were not there this year to try them out for myself. The one that I played was a very nice instrument but I still like the SEV series myself.
L. Omar Henderson
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2006-09-15 03:29
"Nickel (hard) plus gold (soft) = alloy harder than gold and softer than nickel..."
Or...lots and lots of nickel (hard) plus a tiny bit of gold to make it more malleable ---> an alloy that's not soft at all, but hard, tough, and more malleable than pure nickel.
b/
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-09-15 11:08
Oh sorry, let me clarify the "gold thing." I mean that on the periodic table of elements, gold is a heavier substance. What's the point? I have a very acidic system which is present in the oils of my hands. If I were to just play a horn and just throw it in a case afterwards without wiping off the keys, the plating would be gouged and pitted within a year. That is, if the plating were silver or nickel.
Gold is not nearly as reactive an element. For me, gold is an ideal plating material as a few of you have already discovered for yourselves.
...........Paul Aviles
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2006-09-15 14:41
BobD, Please chime in here. Does Ni, Au "mix" to form an alloy with intermediate stiffness and density --method of mixtures, or does the result have "new" properties?
Thanks
Bob Phillips
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2006-09-16 00:20
Do they really use gold?
If they use gold,I think you have to use considerable amount to make it even faitnly yellowish unless you use some other yellow stuff.
Think about the total weight of all the key works.even a few % of gold would mean a lot of money.
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Author: Stephane
Date: 2006-09-16 00:27
"BobD, Please chime in here. Does Ni, Au "mix" to form an alloy with intermediate stiffness and density --method of mixtures, or does the result have "new" properties?"
It's a mixture, which means it has no new properties; for it to have new properties, a chemical change would have to occur with a new compound being formed.
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