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 Bonade ligatures
Author: AW 
Date:   2006-09-08 20:25

Greetings, you may well have talked endlessly about this but............. any tips on dealing with that fact that this potentialy fine lig chews your reeds up like there is no tomorrow!! Am I doing it up too tightly? I don't think so, as any looser and it would slip off in a quick change. Indeed does it matter that the reed bark is getting heavily marked?

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 Re: Bonade ligatures
Author: vjoet 
Date:   2006-09-08 20:43

I wonder if quality control on them has gone out the window?

About a year ago, I tried a Bonade, but found it wouldn't fasten the reed down, but would gradually slip upward. I then tried a Bay, to great satisfaction.

I wonder if the makers are capitalizing on the name, but the quality is not what it once was. Have no old Bonades to compare it to, but I puzzle how it got a fine reputation with the number of problems clarinetists have with them.

vJoe (amateur)

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 Re: Bonade ligatures
Author: Detru Cofidin 
Date:   2006-09-08 20:45

Yes, I think you are tightening to tight. If you have trouble with the lig slipping off the mouthpiece (which is often a case), I'm sure there are articles on methods you can use to make the lig hold on to the mouthpiec better. I just use etching tape and put it on the ligature where it touches the back of the MP. Works great (and also prevents scratching the back of the MP too).

Nicholas Arend

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 Re: Bonade ligatures
Author: Ed 
Date:   2006-09-08 20:50

The slipping issue often comes up here. I found years ago that on a new Bonade the plating is a bit slick and the ligature will slide. I remember getting one years ago and watching it creep up as the clarinet was sitting on my peg as I was teaching a lesson.

The way to fix it is very easy. Just get some fine sandpaper and rough up the inside of the ligature just a little bit. The ligature will hold just fine and will no longer creep.

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 Re: Bonade ligatures
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-09-08 21:13

Bonade ligatures do suffer from some issues of quality control.

Perhaps, someday Leblanc will truly manufacture the ligature as it was originally designed.

Slippage of the newer Bonade ligatures can be remedied as mentioned above by:

1. adding small pieces of masking (paper) tape to the inside of the bands which go around the mouthpiece.

2. the same as suggestion #1, but, instead gluing thin pieces of cork around the inside of the bands. This may change the response/sound/tone quality of the ligature. Some players think this is a worthwhile experiment to try.

3. roughing up the inside of the surrounding bands with fine sandpaper.

4. using a few pieces of mouthpiece patch, around the mouthpiece, to help the ligature stay in place.

...GBK

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 Re: Bonade ligatures
Author: Bruno 
Date:   2006-09-08 21:53

Another solution: buy a Light Rovner and forget the Bonades.

b/



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 Re: Bonade ligatures
Author: AW 
Date:   2006-09-08 22:53

I have played on rovner's for most of the last 25 years. I am fed up with them stretching and losing focus
but thanks for the advice!

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 Re: Bonade ligatures
Author: Morrigan 
Date:   2006-09-08 23:18

Real helpful Bruno, thanks :)

I emailed Greg Smith about 3 or 4 months ago, practically begging him to get me a Bonade and bend it correcctly for me, because no matter how many times I try and do it to mine, I can't get it to stay there, it always bends back! He replied saying that perhaps I was putting it on too tight, and of course, he was right. I've never had the slipping issue though, although I puchased a second one because it looked like mine was about to break however it plays nowhere near as good as the original, and luckily the original hasn't broken yet!

If there is a store that stocks them, try as many as you can and find a good one that stays in place while tightening it only just enough to stay in place.



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