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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2006-06-19 17:06
I just got sent the packet from my college next year for our wind ensemble/orchestra audition. I was wondering if you all had some recommendations of recordings of each of these pieces I could get to help me learn them, listen to them, and understand how they fit into the bigger picture.
Hammersmith Opus 52-Holst
Sinfonietta-Dahl
Beethoven's 6th's Symphony movements 1 and 2
Brahm's Symphony no. 3 2nd movement
Scherzo from Midsummer's Night Dream-Mendelssohn Bartholdy
Capriccio espagnol-Rimsky-Korsakaw
I'll be an incoming freshman so any help would be muchly appreciated!
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2006-06-19 18:25
The only album I have heard is with Larry Combs playing the "important" sections of some orchestral excerpts. The CD is him playing alone, and then he talks about the challenging melodic and technical lines of the various parts. You can buy this album on Amazon by searching clarinet orchestral excerpts or Larry Combs. If you're looking for actual recordings of these pieces, which I believe is a better way of learning the part, just find a recording of one of the big name orchestras playing it.
Austin
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Author: Tyler
Date: 2006-06-19 20:22
If you sign up as a free member at classicalarchives.com, you can listen to 5 free samples per day, and there are both live and MIDI recordings of many orchestral pieces and other works on the site.
Good luck!
-Tyler
PS: Oh, you know what? maybe I'll let you borrow my Larry Combs CD. I know it has three or four of those excerpts on it. It's cool because he really explains the phrasing, and the orchestral context of each excerpt.
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2006-06-19 20:45
Thanks everyone! Anyone know of good recordings for:
Hammersmith Opus 52-Holst
Sinfonietta-Dahl
Also, which big name symphonies do you think play these pieces the best and which certain CD's would any of you recommend?
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2006-06-19 21:47
Oops, there's also Symphony Fantastique-Berlioz
I've practiced these excerpts twice now and they seem to be over my head. Any advice?
Post Edited (2006-06-19 21:47)
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Author: Bigno16
Date: 2006-06-20 04:34
The Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra is, in my opinion, the best of the best in wind ensembles. You can purchase their CDs through Southern Music Company at www.koseicd.com
1) Basic Band Repertory - Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra; Frederick Fennell, conductor
Includes: RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS: English Folk Song Suite; Toccata Marziale. GUSTAV HOLST: First Suite in E-flat; Hammersmith: Prelude and Scherzo; Second Suite in F. GORDON JACOB: William Byrd Suite.
2) Celebration! - Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra; Frederick Fennell, conductor
Includes: PHILIP SPARKE: Celebration. INGOLF DAHL: Sinfonietta. ARNOLD SCHOENBERG: Fanfare on Motifs of Die Gurrelieder. AARON COPLAND: Variations on a Shaker Melody. GEORGE PERLE: Solemn Procession. NORMAN DELLO JOIO: Fantasies on a Theme by Haydn.
Also available on that site are recordings by the North Texas Wind Symphony of "Hammersmith" and the Cincinnati Wind Symphony of "Sinfonietta". But Tokyo Kosei is your best bet, especially with the great Frederick Fennell as their conductor.
I recently performed the Dahl "Sinfonietta" with the UMASS Wind Ensemble at the CBDNA Conference. It's a tough part. Try not to just play the notes. Make it musical. Make sure you play the accents.
For the orchestral pieces, try and find a good recording by the major symphonies (Boston Symphony or Boston Pops for the Midsummer Night's Dream Scherzo; Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, London). You should be able to find plenty. The "Orchestral Excerpts CD" by Larry Combs is good, but he wishes that he didn't even make that CD because it's not the same as hearing/playing the part with the orchestra in context. He tells his students to acquire the orchestra recordings, not that CD. It is helpful but you need to know the mood/style of the excerpt in context, who is playing with you, how loud to be, what intonation problems might there be, and so on.
A great CD that includes a good amount of orchestral excerpts IN CONTEXT is "The Artistry of Ralph McLane", who was the Principal Clarinetist of the Philadelphia Orchestra from 1943-1951: "The finest clarinetist I have ever heard in America." -Arturo Toscanini. It's available on Boston Records and you can probably find it a few different places. It has Beethoven 6 and Brahms 3, but not the others.
Good luck!
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2006-06-20 05:00
The Berlioz is also on the Larry Combs CD. As far as the full recordings, I like Eugene Ormandy with the Philadelphia Orchestra for the Beethoven Symphonies.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000029YW/qid=1150778183/sr=1-49/ref=sr_1_49/102-4274966-6624966?s=classical&v=glance&n=5174
Austin
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2006-06-20 20:55
Thanks everyone! Bigno16-you are a great help, thank you! I think I'm going to borrow the Larry Combs CD and then call my orchestra teacher from high school and see if he has any of the recordings of the orchestral works. Then, I'll buy some CD's if I need to, plus they'll be a great addition to my collection! So thank you all again!
Bigno16-could I email you the specific part I have to play and see if there are any special/more useful fingerings I could use?
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2006-06-21 01:54
If you have access to Itunes, you may be able to purchase each selection. It would recommend purchasing the full work, but if you are in a pinch this might work.
For the wind band selections, I recommend the Cincinnati Conservatory with Corporon. I am sure there are tons of these recordings out there. If you live near your college choice, see if the ensemble performed it recently. Usually most colleges will record concerts. This might give you some insight into what the director is looking for!
Brandon
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Author: Bigno16
Date: 2006-06-21 02:37
Yes, you can e-mail me. My e-mail is rbi99@aol.com and I'll even e-mail you some of my own recordings to help, if you like. It's good to get as many as you can to listen to.
Also, a great book to get for actual advice and suggestions for playing the orchestral excerpts is Peter Haddock's "The Working Clarinetist": 'Master Classes with Peter Hadcock. 218 pages of practical clarinet studies from former Boston Symphony clarinetist and Eastman School of Music professor Peter Hadcock, this book is a must for the serious player. Includes orchestral studies from Bartok and Brahms to Stravinsky and Tchaicovsky with in depth performance advice, master classes on Nielsen and Mozart, chapters on intonation, articulation, reed working, fingering, and much, much more. Probably the most comprehensive book available for the serious clarinetist.'
Another one is Kalmen Bloch's "The Orchestral Clarinetist". There's a few different volumes with the pieces you're looking for.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-06-21 03:06
For the Beethoven, I like Szell/Cleveland. Its on Sony Classical, and very budget priced. Marcellus is sitting principal clarinet.
For the Brahms, I like Karajan/Berlin on DG. I think Leister is sitting principal clarinet.
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