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Author: bawa
Date: 2005-11-09 13:22
Anyone know anything about the Rimski Korsakov concert for clarinet? Any recommended recordings? Difficulty level?
Also the same questions about Five Bagatelles by Gerald Finzi.
Thanks for any input.
Would these be more or less difficult than the Stamitz Concert No3, and the Crusell concert No.5?
Post Edited (2005-11-09 13:23)
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-11-09 15:17
Yes, the Korsakov Concerto is considered by many to be a piece of crap. I would put it as easier than the others you mentioned, but again, it's not much of a work.
Dan Leeson put it among his famous all time 10 worst works for Clarinet in his article for the Instrumentalist Magazine many years ago.
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2005-11-09 15:56
The Five Bagatelles is a very attractive piece and well worth learning.
From a purely technical point of view, the 3rd is easy; the sort of thing a beginner can play within months.
The 1st, 2nd and 4th are harder, but a lot easier than most concerto movements.
The 5th is the hardest, especially if you play at the recommended metronome mark (which I think is slightly faster than the ideal, as it happens). The UK exam system sets it for grade 8, which means they think it is roughly as difficult as the first or third movement of the Mozart concerto. (I am talking technical difficulty here, remember.)
It has been recorded by Emma Johnson and by Robert Plane, the latter with orchestra rather than piano.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2005-11-09 16:37
I agree with David about the Rimsky-Korsakov -- too bad he didn't write us something more along the lines of L'Coq d' Or. Note that this work is for clarinet and band rather than clarinet and orchestra.
The Finzi Bagatelles are, IMO, far more worthwhile. In terms of technical difficulty, I would rate them as more difficult than Stamitz Concerto No. 3 and about the same as Crusell Op. 5.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: GoatTnder
Date: 2005-11-09 16:40
>It has been recorded by Emma Johnson and by Robert Plane, the latter
>with orchestra rather than piano.
The latter being on one of my favorite albums, period.
I've always thought of the Finzi Bagatelles as a rite of passage for clarinet players, just as the Mozart concerto and Weber concertino are. As David mentioned, the difficulty of this piece is not as much in the technicality as it is in the musicality. Have fun!
Andres Cabrera
South Bay Wind Ensemble
www.SouthBayWinds.com
sbwe@sbmusic.org
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Author: bawa
Date: 2005-11-10 09:35
Thanks for your input. Perhaps that is the reason why I could gather so little infromation on the Rimski-K is so scarce...not worth writing about!
I will look out for the R Plane recording of Finzi.
I have the Sabine Meyer recording for the Stamitz concerts and the Tony Pay/Orchestra of the Age of Enlightment recording for the Crusell concerts (the latter a favourite).
The reason is that my daughter is playing for a major (for her!) audition next June. And is deciding on which pieces she will pick to work on with the help of her teacher. At the moment she has just about polished up the Stamitz, repicked the Crusell (its been there in the background for sometime) to give it serious thought and also starting on Weber Concertino. The Rimski-K is something that is included in the "syllabus" as a matter of course for her year, i.e. her fellow clarinet classmates are starting on it and the Stamitz.
She does like to listen to a range of recordings for the pieces she is playing.
I guess it will also come down to what she enjoys playing the most.
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Author: SolidRockMan
Date: 2005-11-10 12:48
The Robert Plane CD is a Naxos (http://www.naxos.com) recording and includes a range of Finzi's work such as the Clarinet Concerto and Severn Rhapsody.
The Bagatelles are played with lovely string arrangements, much superior in my view to the solo piano.
All in all just under on hour of sublime music!
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