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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2005-08-02 14:38
This week, I spent the time to measure the pitch errors for all the notes that I can play on my Buffet.
I pulled the barrel and mouthpiece until I could easily play C5 "right on" usning my Korg tuner.
Then, I'd slur to another fingering --trying to hold everything constant-- and read the tuner.
When I arrived at the new note, the Korg would show maybe 5-cents FLATTER than the reading that it would settle to. This transient would take a second or so.
So, I'm wondering if that's me, my clarinet responding slowly, or a data processing lag in the Korg tuner.
If its me or the clarinet (responsive mpc?), I'm in a heap of trouble playing fast passages.
BTW: when I tune perfectly on C6, notes in the chalumeau are as much as 30-cents flat, and only one note (Eb4) is sharp. Evidently, I should tune C5 to be about 15-cents sharp so that the rest of the horn requires smaller adjustments. (That's what I normally do, anyway.)
Bob Phillips
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-08-02 14:46
Bob Phillips wrote:
> So, I'm wondering if that's me, my clarinet responding slowly,
> or a data processing lag in the Korg tuner.
easiest way is to use a constant pitch instrument (electric organ comes to mind) to discard the possibility of tuner lag. If you don't see the same thing, then it's you ... whether or not the clarinet responds slowly it's still you since you control the instrument ...
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Author: pewd
Date: 2005-08-02 15:21
an electric keyboard would be better.
accoustic pianos have 2 or 3 strings per note.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: John O'Janpa
Date: 2005-08-02 15:38
This could be you unconsciously bringing the pitch up to center the needle.
Try tuning the clarinet to C5, then recording yourself playing the slurs to other notes etc. Play the recording back while watching the tuner.
This will give you a better idea of the inherent intonation pich errors.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-02 16:09
Get Smartmusic - it has a really good tuner in it and the tuner will generate a pitch while you play (your pitch - any!) so you can tune with your ears and double check your accuracy on the fly.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-08-02 16:52
I've never pulled the mp in an attempt to tune. If you had to pull both the mp and the bbl maybe it's too much. Maybe pulling the mid-joint instead of the mp is worth a try. Maybe a shorter bbl?
Bob Draznik
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2005-08-02 19:58
I tried some further experiments with tuners today --including other folk's tuners.
The flat start-up indication is a property of the Korg!
wrt Smart Music:
I have an opportunity to license Smart Music as part of my recent purchase of Finale. Finale, itself, also has a performance evaluator. I'm troubled by both in that:
1) they won't deal with grace notes, and
2.) they won't accept notes "shorter" than 1/16ths.
Since I'm working on a lot of stuff that has 1/64 and 1/32nds (and grace notes), I haven't spent the money to outfit myself with microphones or to re-write my challenging parts in new time signatures to bypass the limitations of the programs.
Anyone have any ideas about the near future of this class of coaching programs?
Bob Phillips
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2005-08-02 22:42
Yes, the programs refuse offerings with grace notes and 1/32nds and "faster."
Bob Phillips
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2005-08-03 01:29
My version of Finale (2000b) specifies that there is a "plug in" feature which would allow grace notes, etc.
I don't have any plug-ins, so I don't know if/how it works.
Does Sibelius work this way, too (with extra modules that need to be added to get all the options), or it is more inclusive? Or less?
Susan
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-08-03 01:36
ohsuzan wrote:
> My version of Finale (2000b) specifies that there is a "plug
> in" feature which would allow grace notes, etc.
2000b is a bit ancient for software now (SmartMusic was just bundled in aroujnd that time); check the latest version of Finale for the details of how it works now.
In most cases (and I know in the score scanning particularly) a less than top-line software set was included as a "gimme".
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2005-08-03 12:25
Thanks, Mark.
I know my Finale version is ancient, comparatively speaking. I got it 'way back in '99, at my last church job. And I use it only for the occasional foray into transcription, etc., now. But it would still be nice to be able to do grace notes . . .
SmartMusic, on the other hand, is a dynamite program. I've seen it work, and I was awed.
If I had a laptop, I would want to get SmartMusic. As it is, with just the desk monster, I would have to rearrange my whole house to be able to use it.
Susan
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