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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-04-02 21:48
I'm moved by today's passing of the Pope. I read a biography of him years ago, and he was truly an impressive man. One of the coolest things about him is that when he was in the university before becoming a priest, he was an actor and a playwright, even secretly acting in and producing plays that would have been dealt with harshly by the Nazis in occupied Poland. There's even some evidence that he had a girlfriend in those days. How cool is that!?
Catholic or not, the fact that each and every one of you here plays the clarinet and loves it enough to devote some portion of your life to it has a duty. John Paul said it perfectly in the words in my signature below. With his passing I'll likely soon change my signature, but it stands for now
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Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-04-02 22:22
A fine ribute R G, in both your words and his. While being a "somewhat conservative" Protestant, I have found that I have been in considerable agreement with his statements and policies over his long years. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: clarinetwife
Date: 2005-04-02 23:31
My parish priest recently told me that he doesn't get angry letters and phone calls when he comforts the afflicted, only when he afflicts the comfortable. John Paul II did both. Young people flocked to see him because he showed them that there is a dignity and a purpose that can be expressed through any person's life, in contrast to the emptiness that can take hold in our times.
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Author: Dano
Date: 2005-04-02 23:48
How does this relate to clarinet and clarinet playing? I wonder what the reactions would be if I grieved on this board over a fellow athiest that passed away. My thread would probably be pulled because it has nothing to do with clarineting and because I am not a believer. Do I have a right to be offended? Is it possible for me to deliver a tearful speech on how much wrong the Catholic church has done while this Pope was head of it? I would save that for other venues. I was quite sure that this board was about clarinets and music. Not about paying tribute to dead religious leaders. Happy clarineting.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-04-03 00:15
Dano wrote:
> How does this relate to clarinet and clarinet playing? I
> wonder what the reactions would be if I grieved on this board
> over a fellow athiest that passed away.
I am an atheist that grieves over the passing of all men who strive to be just.
His quote on the responsibilities of artists to the world is the reason this thread is here, not the pluses or minuses of any religion. Please take that tact in any responses here.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2005-04-03 00:21
Hi Dano,
Perhaps you missed the footer that Ralph G uses which is "Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it. - Pope John Paul II"
Is there is a quote by an athiest of a simialr vein that you wish to post, or one by you? I have no problem reading about your interest in the arts no matter whether you are religious or not!
Do you have something to offer/share?
HRL
PS As I recall, the Pope was commenting on the performance of some break-dancers. Not my idea of art but...
Post Edited (2005-04-03 00:59)
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-04-03 00:22
Nevermind.
Post Edited (2005-04-03 03:10)
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2005-04-03 01:07
He was a man of deep faith and conviction who believed first of
all in PEACE. He respected the religions of others.
He valued art and music.
In his last year of life he asked for a special performance of Mahler.
When I visisted the Vatican as a tourist, I felt privileged to see him address a crowd in St Peters square as a special event for the cannonization of a saint.
It was a moving experience.
I am Jewish. My beliefs did not coincide with those of the Pope on many issues, but I admire him and respect him on many levels. To those who mourn him, I extend my sincerest sympathy and express my admiration for his life and achievements.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-04-03 01:28
I reiterate - this thread is about the quote that Ralph started this with, and the death of the person who made that quote. It is not political or religious in nature.
Keep it that way. If you don't have anything to add, don't post. I've had it with childish remarks.
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Author: Dano
Date: 2005-04-03 03:13
I guess my whole point is that artistic talent is not a gift from God. It is as much a gift from God as blue eyes or being left handed or right handed or having your vocal chords in just the right place in your body that you can sing better than most. Having a firm and rock solid belief that there is no God, I can't help coming to that conclusion.
Aleseq, I also am a man of deep conviction and believe in peace. I also value art and music and I also asked for a special performance of Mahler. (No one listened).
Hope I did not offend anyone with my knee-"JERK" reaction. If I did, I apologize.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-04-03 03:29
Dano wrote:
> I guess my whole point is that artistic talent is not a gift
> from God.
The sentiment is what's important.
This thread is now closed. Not because of what Ralph or Dano said, but because of a couple of children who keep throwing insults or can't keep their mouths shut when they have nothing to say.
Sorry. It could have been a nice thread.
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