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Author: Verdino
Date: 2000-02-19 05:49
Someone help,
I have a huge problem that I hope someone can help with.
I love the German tone but I have a Buffet R13. Every piece of equipment and every reed is geared toward the French sound. Is it possible to sound German with a French horn?
Also how can you play both loudly and sound good, and softly with ease?
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2000-02-19 12:49
Hi' Verdino!
There are several ways to approach the German sound. The most expensive way is to switch instrument to a Würlizer "Reform-Böhm" clarinet. It is actually a german instrument with french system. They are completely handmade so the price is quite high. You can often find used ones in a german magazine called "Das Orchester". Search the web on that name. They are very much used in Holland, Belgium, also in Germany as well as in other parts of Europe.
You can also try a german-made mouthpiece called Zinner (www.hans-zinner.de) on your french setup. It's a mouthpiece made with a german concept. He makes models for german and french instruments, both with the german concept in mind. Basically the grm. MP's have a very small tip-opening and a long lay to make it easier to use quite hard reeds to produce the velvet-like sound (Leister, Sabine Mayer a.o.). The chamber is more conical so it plays more direct with less resistance. The dynamic range is slightly more limited than on french MP's since the reed can't vibrate that much with that small opening, but the choice of setup is always a compromise, you gain some and you loose some. You can play as soft as you want though.
If you start to experiment with mouthpieces, don't forget that the action, mouthpiece and barrel, always go together. If you have the possibility, don't leave a mouthpiece before you have tried it with several different barrels, long, short, conical, reversed conical, wide, narrow, Whatever you can lay your hands on.
yrs' Alphie
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2000-02-19 16:00
Alphie - Your mention of Z rang my bell. There is an US patent 5,105,701 to Jerry Hall of Cleveland AND Hans Zinner of Marktrodach, Germany with some design detail given, so it is possible his Ger. style mp is available here. The pat may be viewed on the USPTO and IBM sites. I can and will provide pat help if needed, perhaps others [VanDoren etc] produce and/or know of commercialization of Z's designs. Don
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2000-02-20 00:28
If you want to follow up on the zinner mouthpieces, go to http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gregory_Smith_Clarinet/ims.htm. Greg smith, Evanston, seems to be the manufacturer of them in the US.
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Author: Keil
Date: 2000-02-20 01:08
Who are some players that depict a good german clarinet tone? would Eduard Brunner and Karl Leister do?
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Author: John Scorgie
Date: 2000-02-20 01:20
Verdino --
To get a more "German" sound with your R-13, you might want to try the Ridenour mpces. Tom Ridenour has a great website. Address can be found somewhere on sneezy and on Anne Bell's pages. Many of Ridenour's mpces are designed for a darker sound. They tend to be closer and longer than most, and are available in various chamber configurations. He also has a custom consulting service to help you choose the mpce which will help you get the sound you seek on your R-13.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-02-20 01:24
Alphie wrote:
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If you want to follow up on the zinner mouthpieces, go to http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Gregory_Smith_Clarinet/ims.htm. Greg smith, Evanston, seems to be the manufacturer of them in the US.
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Actually Hans Zinner Gmbh is a manufacturer of different mouthpiece blanks. Many mouthpiece crafters use the Zinners (they come in various shapes, sizes, baffles, bores, etc.) as a starting point for their work. Kind of like getting a blick of marble roughed out at the quarry before the artist starts work.
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Author: andrea
Date: 2000-02-20 03:03
richard hawkings of the interlochen academy uses zinner blanks for his mouthpieces.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-02-20 03:04
andrea wrote:
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richard hawkings of the interlochen academy uses zinner blanks for his mouthpieces.
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Hawkins :^) (common misspelling of his last name)
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Author: Joris van den Berg
Date: 2000-02-20 17:56
Yamaha makes a reform Boehm clarinet, but i have never had a chance to try one. The reform boehm Wurlitzers i've tried somehow sound less great than the Oehler system Wurlitzers. (Too bad i only know the French fingerings)
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