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 When to step up mouthpiece and or clarinet
Author: Nefertiti 
Date:   2005-02-19 15:04

I wanted some advice from everyone. I've been teaching clarinet privately for the last 3 years through an after school program. All of my kids started on vito clarinets with the mouthpiece that came with the clarinet. This year I have some students entering 7-8th grade and there getting pretty good. Is now the time to start talking to the parents about getting a better mouthpiece? Which one should I recommend? I want to suggest something that is a step up but I don't want to send them on this mouthpiece hunt that could be confusing for the students and the parents. When would you suggest talking to the parents about moving to a better horn? I play a Buffet R13 with an Eddie Daniels piece that I love but I am mainly a saxophone player and am not sure if the ED piece would be a good suggestion for kids although I love it. I think the tip is around .105. Thanks for any help or suggestions you can give.

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 Re: When to step up mouthpiece and or clarinet
Author: Robert Moody 
Date:   2005-02-19 15:29

Hey Nefertiti,

I just posted my opinion on the new thread "Advice on mouthpieces" where a student is asking that same question (kinda). I sense that you realize the natural order of things is new mouthpiece → new clarinet.

The Vandoren mouthpieces are a great next step that can last easily into professional life. They are solid, dependable and time-tested. 5RV, 2RV, B45 are all professional quality and relatively inexpensive.

Check out that thread.

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=172512&t=172512

Good luck.

Robert Moody
http://www.musix4me.com
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 Re: When to step up mouthpiece and or clarinet
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2005-02-19 15:43

Hi - Queen of Egypt [I guess] - Even tho I do teach a bit after some minor cl repair, I am NOT a teacher, and bow to our pro's opinions here. If you observe any "hold-up" in a students progress, attributable to mp [or cl] "inadequacy", I'd suggest a play/test of their cl/mp before recommending a replacement. Some horns and mps may be OK !! Re; mps, I'd suggest going to a Fobes, Hite, other major maker's "student-line", mp of "medium character", for inexpensive education, making parents happier as well ! Some onvestment by you, for their trial, would be helpful, I'm sure. Others, please help advise. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: When to step up mouthpiece and or clarinet
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2005-02-19 16:04

The best thing Vandorens have going for them is their prices. For around 60 - 70 dollars you can get a pretty good mouthpiece. The problem is that they produce so many mouthpieces, there are a fair amount of duds mixed in with the good.

If you're going to suggest vandorens, like Robert Moody said, 5RV and 2RV are very good. I would stay away from B45 (that's my personal opinion). I'd also throw in the mix the Vandoren M13, M13Lyre, and M15. I like those mouthpieces VERY much. Definitely pro-quality at a student's budget.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: When to step up mouthpiece and or clarinet
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2005-02-19 19:22

When you think that a student's equipment is holding them back lend him one of your mouthpieces for a week. Once the student feels and hears the difference he won't want to go back to the bad mp and will start bugging his parents to buy him a decent one.
Put the student's mp on your clarinet and let him play it during a lesson. Usually a kid's eyes will light up when they hear the change in the sound and feel how much easier it is to play a decent instrument. If the parent comes to the lesson they'll hear the difference too.

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 Re: When to step up mouthpiece and or clarinet
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2005-02-19 21:25

elmo lewis wrote:

> When you think that a student's equipment is holding them
> back lend him one of your mouthpieces for a week. Once the
> student feels and hears the difference he won't want to go back
> to the bad mp and will start bugging his parents to buy him a
> decent one.
> Put the student's mp on your clarinet and let him play it
> during a lesson. Usually a kid's eyes will light up when they
> hear the change in the sound and feel how much easier it is to
> play a decent instrument. If the parent comes to the lesson
> they'll hear the difference too.

Like Elmo here says, I can't remember WHOM, but one person on this board used to have their student come to a lesson with the parents, and would illustrate the difference between their old mouthpiece and a new one. I remember the poster saying it was very effective since the parent could hear the drastic difference.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: When to step up mouthpiece and or clarinet
Author: Nefertiti 
Date:   2005-02-22 14:19

Thanks everyone. It sounds like the Vandoren pieces are the way to go. Is there one that's better for junior high students than the others or is it all relative? Thanks for the help.

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