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 Pivot rod screw for Penzel Mueller?
Author: klook 
Date:   2010-10-01 18:02

Hey folks, been a lurker here but now I have a good reason to post!

I'm a fella that likes rebuilding old clarinets.

I recently got an old Penzel Mueller clarinet from a friend, wood, no model marking but a serial number of GBxxxx on bot sections w/ a Jean Marbeau bell.

Anyway I think its gonna be a good one, but I'm missing one pivot screw!

I know Ferrees and other sell pivot screws for various old makers, but does anyone know the correct one that will work? Up to this point in my workings I haven't had to actually replace a screw, they've always been there.

Any leads?

thanks!

klook

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 Re: Pivot rod screw for Penzel Mueller?
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2010-10-01 18:37

The easiest solution will be to go to an instrument repair shop, which will have drawers full of pivot screws. They'll be able match what you need and sell it to you for a few cents, or, more likely, give it to you.

The tapered end may well be too long, in which case you'll need to grind it down a bit. That's a standard part of the training in instrument repair schools, so it may be best to let the shop do the work, which is fiddly because the part is so small.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Pivot rod screw for Penzel Mueller?
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2010-10-02 03:34

Klook, you need a thread measuring tool to measure the threads. Best to get both inches and metric ones. Repair supplies places sell them (e.g. Ferree's, Allied, etc.). Just measure another one from the clarinet, but check that it fits where the missing one is, just in case someone changed the threads there.

You might be able to find, but probably very unlikely, an actual Penzel Mueller pivot screw. More likely, but still not very, that you can find a screw that just fits (especially if PM happened to use the same screws as another company). Most likely a screw would have the right threads but would need to be fitted by whatever method depending on situation. That's why Ken's suggestion of a place with a stock of pivot screws they can try is best.

>> and sell it to you for a few cents, or, more likely, give it to you. <<

I guess a store is somehow lucky to be able to do that, or they make enough from other things (or charge too much for them) to be able to afford that. My stock of pivot screw is actually one of the more expensive things I have in comparison with its size and amount I need to use it (rarely), so I wouldn't be able to give them for free.

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 Re: Pivot rod screw for Penzel Mueller?
Author: SteveG_CT 
Date:   2010-10-02 22:41

Klook,

I have a few P-M clarinets and have had to make new rod screws for a few of them. In every case the screws have been a #1-64 thread. For pivot screws the type of point used on P-M's seems to vary from model to model and is likely dependent on when it was made. My earlier P-M clarinets (albert system, empire state, and one with just the P-M eagle logo) all use conical pointed pivot screws, while my later P-M clarinets (artist model and brilliante model) use pivot screws with cylindrical ends. I have some spares of both types so if you tell me which you need I'd be happy to give you one.



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 Re: Pivot rod screw for Penzel Mueller?
Author: klook 
Date:   2010-10-03 17:58

Steve-

I'll check which kind I need. How can I reach you?

Thanks so much!

Klook

PS I'm not sure which era of clarinet this is, which remains a mystery to me.
There is no marking of model name anywhere just PM New York.

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 Re: Pivot rod screw for Penzel Mueller?
Author: SteveG_CT 
Date:   2010-10-03 18:05

Klook,
If you click on my user name at the top of the message you will find my e-mail address. Just send me an e-mail.

-Steve

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