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Author: Bass1193
Date: 2004-06-26 07:50
Hola all!
I am looking into getting a new soprano (obvious if you've read my previous post!) I must admit, I'm a Buffet junkie. It would be great to have an R13 or a Festival or a Tosca,but I'm not afraid of playing a"smaller" name. I'm not shure my teacher, Don Ambler, would be too pleased with me for buying a "non-Buffet", but he always tells me "If it works, use it". I'm in contact with a guy who has a like new Selmer Signature for a great price. I know that horns work differently for everybody, but I am hoping that somebody can steer me in the right direction for a GENERAL alternitive to Buffet, if I can't find one. A friend of mine plays a LeBlanc (I don't know the model) and I like the way it sounds. Thanks (in advance) for the help!!
Sean
p.s. I'm a youngster yet, and I hope what I'm saying is right, but if it's not then give me a shout so that I may stand corrected!
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-06-26 09:18
Unless you can find a good reason for buying a Selmer, chances are you'll prefer the Buffets because you're used to them.
Keep an open mind, but you'll get more change with your new buffet (unless you buy a Tosca).
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Author: Bass1193
Date: 2004-06-27 01:39
Hola!
Thanks for the info. Are the Toscas really that different? I've never played one.
Sean
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2004-06-27 03:33
Did I mis-read, or did you use "signet" and "signature" interchangebly? They are not anything like the same instruments.
Is Selmer really a "smaller" name?
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Author: Bass1193
Date: 2004-06-27 03:50
Thanks Jim E. That's a typo. I understand that the Signet is a Selmer USA product and the Signature is Selmer Paris. I don't in any way mean to imply that I think of Selmer as lesser to Buffet. By "smaller" I mean to say that I will definately play a non-Buffet. I wasn't thinking right at that particular moment. I am a huge fan of Selmer and LeBlanc as well. Hope I didn't offend!!
Cheers,
Sean
p.s. I'm a youngster yet, and I hope what I'm saying is right, but if it's not then give me a shout so that I may stand corrected!
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Author: msloss
Date: 2004-06-28 00:29
Sean, already said greetings on another of your threads, but saw this one and had to respond. Mr. Ambler is one of the best in the country when it comes to selecting instruments. A lot of professionals come to him to pick out clarinets. Trust his guidance and you will end up with a world-class instrument. He goes to the Buffet facility in California on a fairly regular basis to work with Francois Kloc picking out Rockley's stock, so he can put you with a great clarinet very quickly if you are ready. Only thing I would caution is to be aggressive with the store on cost -- they tend to price high.
Not to say there is anything wrong with the other brands of clarinet, but you have a unique opportunity to use Mr. Ambler's skills to your benefit to find a great instrument you can rely on for years to come. I would give the same guidance to anybody -- trust your teacher. You are studying with him/her for a reason.
Best of luck with your search.
Mark.
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Author: Bass1193
Date: 2004-06-28 05:09
Thanks Mark
I certainly agree with your view of the Rockley store. But you also know that there aren't many other stores within close proximity to that area, so I have to go there. He selected my 1193 out of a shipment of 13, along with five others. He says that he believes that due to the current (poor) relations with France, Buffet may stop providing to America. He told me that my 1193 may be the last that the US shall see for a good while, as it was the last one to sell of that shipment of 13. I hope he's wrong on this point!! He is having his repair technician look at my "cross-breed" Preufer, but says that I should probably get a better one before college. I will certainly work with him to get a good one.
Thanks for the advice!
Sean
p.s. I'm a youngster yet, and I hope what I'm saying is right, but if it's not then give me a shout so that I may stand corrected!
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Author: Igloo Bob
Date: 2004-06-28 05:16
Hm, I wonder if there's evidence to support the Buffet embargo on the US, or if it's just conjecture? Hopefully the latter, but if worse comes to worse, everyone can just buy their R13 now, and then I guess we'll just "miss out" on the Tosca for a few years. Considering that we're likely a huge source of income to Buffet, and they're already in financial problems, it seems counter-productive to both sides for them to pull something of that nature. Definitely would be a huge boost to Selmer, and might help build something for Leblanc, as they've been trying to muscle into the market as of late.
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Author: Bass1193
Date: 2004-06-28 05:37
I agree, IggyBob, very logical
> Considering that we're likely a huge source of
> income to Buffet, and they're already in financial problems, it
> seems counter-productive to both sides for them to pull
> something of that nature.
But when has anybody followed logic over extremely tense political matters?
[ Remainder of post deleted - Keep the discussion music related - GBK ]
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Author: Igloo Bob
Date: 2004-06-28 05:47
No clue on the Music Group, but if they are, either the owner keeps a very loose grip on the lower-branched companies, or this is just speculation. I just have a hard time believing any company in financial difficulty would commit suicide over politics. Only time will tell.
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Author: Bass1193
Date: 2004-06-28 05:49
Sorry 'bout that, GBK. I tend to wander. I'll keep a tighter rein on my thoughts in the future.
p.s. I'm a youngster yet, and I hope what I'm saying is right, but if it's not then give me a shout so that I may stand corrected!
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-06-28 10:37
Igloo Bob wrote:
> Hm, I wonder if there's evidence to support the Buffet embargo
> on the US, or if it's just conjecture?
Conjecture of the worst kind - there is NO Buffet embargo, and let's leave that kind of conjecture off the BBoard.
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-06-28 11:02
Bass1193,
Sorry you misunderstood me!
When I said more change...I meant financially, the Toscas are OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive, especially here in the UK.
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Author: Phat Cat
Date: 2004-06-28 11:45
Buffet Crampon has been UK-owned for 20+ years, first by Boosey and Hawkes and most recently by The Music Group. Currency exchange rates amongst the pound, dollar and Euro are probably the prime factor in price and supply considerations. The British and French do have quite a history of dealing with political antipathy.
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