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 Unknown bass clarinet
Author: Contra 
Date:   2004-05-15 02:13

Until the middle of last year, I played a bass clarinet in concert band. It played great in everything I had to do. The problem is that I wasn't able to keep it when I switched to contra. I am interested in finding the model, but it didn't have any brand name on it or on the case. The only distinguishing features I saw was that it didn't have a place for a floor peg. Does anyone know of any models of bass clarinet that don't have floor pegs? I can't find it online, and it's bothering me.

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: DougR 
Date:   2004-05-15 21:40

well, for what it's worth, my Selmer Series 9 bass didn't have a floor peg until I had one put on. Yours, though, sounds like a horn that was made to be re-branded & left intentionally unmarked, which I think limits the possible suspects to outfits like Kohlert. You might try searching the threads here for "clarinets, rebranded" or soething like that. Also, try the International Bass Clarinet Society. If it were me, I'd probably contact Dave Spiegelthal and see if he has any ideas, or any horns for sale that match the description. Good luck!

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2004-05-16 00:13

Contra - Please give all of us as much description of "your [previous?] bass cl as you can, the LACK of a peg support doesn't really help! Is it a single body or separated upper/ lower joints, plastic [brown-greenish in coloration] or wood, shiny or dull black? Describe the keys. Is there any information on the bell [or mouthpiece/ligature], any numbers on the back, above, middle, bottom? Any info on or in the case? There are a number of us with quite a bit of experience with bass clarinets, who may be able to help you. Dave S, the old Linton [Malerne?] Hard Rubber, brownish, no peg clamp, I had [sold] played quite well, it had additional keys, art. C#/G#, alt Ab/Eb, and of course low Eb. A detective job ?? Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: Contra 
Date:   2004-05-16 00:51

I can tell you what I remember. It was a dull black plastic one piece that went to low Eb. Where the neck met the body, there were three rings. I don't remember any numbers. I think it had nickel-plated keys. The Eb hole was on the right side of the bell if you were looking at it from behind. I don't remember any extra keys. A seventh grader I don't know is using it now, so I don't have access to it.

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2004-05-17 14:18

Contra -

If you mean that at the top of the body, where the neck goes in, there is a wide metal band with two grooves in it, so it looks like three rings, that design is used on Bundy and Linton instruments. (Lintons are Bundy stencils.)

These are perfectly usable student quality instruments.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2004-05-18 21:13

Ken,
The Linton bass clarinets I've seen/worked on have been Robert Malerne (Paris) stencils, thus were not made by Bundy. Malerne made an amazing number of stencil alto and basses in both one-piece-body hard rubber and two-piece-body wood versions --- under their own name and under the brands of Linton, Conn, Olds, King, Lyon & Healy, Evette & Schaeffer, and probably a half-dozen more I can't remember. As far as I know Bundy bass clarinets have only been marketed as "Bundy" or "Buescher" (and now as "Selmer-USA").
By the way, I don't believe I've ever seen a bass clarinet with the low-Eb key on the right side (as viewed from above by the player) --- am I missing something here?

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2004-05-18 21:33

TKS for making the corrections, Dave, I agree, and was also thinking of doing so. Since Leblanc, maybe Selmer [others?] also have put out insts with little or no info on them. I'd guess Contra's B C is one of these "no-names", some of them in good repair could play well, intonation ?? Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: Contra 
Date:   2004-05-18 22:19

Thanks for the help. The bass clarinet I've found that most resembles the one I remember is the Selmer USA 1430P. So, thanks again for all the help.

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 Re: Unknown bass clarinet
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2004-05-18 22:26

The Selmer 1430P is a renamed Bundy, and frequently on older Bundys the logos have worn off, so Bundy is probably what it was.

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