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 New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-02-27 20:30

I was recently given a number of boxes of the new Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds for my testing, evaluation and comments. These reeds, made by Argendonax S.R.L.(Gonzalez reeds of Argentina) were the final prototypes and will be available for sale in the United States in approximately 4 more weeks.

These reeds are based on a thinner blank than the current Gonzalez FOF brand and are meant to be a direct competitor to the Vandoren Blue Box or Mitchel Lurie type reed. It is obvious that Gonzalez reeds, who have had great success with their FOF brand, are now going after the market share of players (professionals as well as amateurs) who prefer a thinner
blank reed.

All reeds tested were prepared in a fairly standard break-in procedure over a few days. No adjustments (knife, sandpaper, rush) were made to any reeds.


Packaging: The reeds come in a plastic shrink wrapped cardboard box and are individually packaged in stiff cardboard holders. There are 10 reeds in a box. The reeds are graded in 1/4 strength sizes.

Design: The reeds (as mentioned above) are built on a thin blank template, with no tapering toward the butt end of the reed. Although I could not measure the blank thickness, it was similar (or perhaps even a bit thicker), than a Vandoren Blue Box blank (2.8mm) The reeds are single cut (one scrape) with a pronounced U shaped cut on the bark - as opposed to a flatter shaped bark cut which the FOF reeds have. The difference in the U shaped scrape is similar to what you would see when comparing a V12 and a Blue Box reeds, although those brands are both file cut type reeds. When compared to an FOF type reed, the tip curve is identical, but the blank does not taper to the butt end, and the reed is slightly longer.

Cane and cut: The "Regular Cut" reeds were noticeably consistant in both their even fiber pattern toward the tip and initial cut. There were not any miscut reeds or mishaped blanks. When looking at the reed from the butt end, all reeds were the same thickness on both sides - none were severely lower on either side. The U shaped cut on the bark starts slightly higher up on the blank than the FOF reed, thus making these reeds particularly friendly to medium facing length mouthpieces.

Play testing: As is common with Gonzalez reeds, these played remarkably well right out of the box. The response was quick, tonguing was effortless and the sound was very vibrant. Due to the thinner blank, I expected the tip to be much weaker than the FOF/ V12 type thick blank reed, but the tip exhibited plenty of resistance. My suspicion is that the tip thickness is the same as an FOF/V12 type reed, and not as thin as a normal Blue Box/Mitchell Lurie type reed. The "Regular Cut" reeds broke in easily and within a few days reached their playability status.

Final thoughts: As was mentioned earlier, Gonzalez is now going after the market share of players who prefer a thinner blank reed, as well as now creating a very high quality consistant reed which students can well afford. I can foresee that this will be a reed that many teachers will recommend for their advancing students as well as being used by serious players who like a quick, responsive and lively reed.

The "Regular Cut" Gonzalez clarinet reeds are projected to be available in the United States at the end of March. The suggested list price of a box of 10 will be $13.


For all bass clarinetists: Gonzalez "Regular Cut" bass clarinet reeds are now in the final stages of design, with a projected target date of this summer for availabilty. Gonzalez is expecting that the arrival of their new bass clarinet reeds will be a highly anticipated event with huge demand world wide.

Disclaimer: All reeds given to me for sample and testing were by professional courtesy. Although I personally use Gonzalez and Mozart reeds, I am not paid by or affiliated with Argendonax S.R.L., Gonzalez reeds, or Davie Cane ...GBK



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 Re: Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - A review
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2004-02-27 23:42

GBK,
Sounds like a winner. The thin tip on Vandoren regulars from what I remember was such a pain. I even tried buying weaker reeds and cutting the tip back, with mixed results.

How do they compare with the Gonzalez FOF reeds strength wise? Is it one to one or is there an offset?

Best Regards
Mark

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 New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-02-28 00:11

Mark...My first impression of the "Regular Cut" reeds was that they were a 1/4 size softer than the FOF, but after extended playing I think that they are equivalent in strength to the FOF. (When discussing these reeds with Phil Shapiro at Davie Cane, he actually thought the "Regular Cut" reeds ran 1/4 strength harder. Thus, two players, different impressions)

So, as a generality, I would guess that a 3 1/2 in the "Regular Cut" is approximately the same as a 3 1/2 in the FOF.

However, when they become available, it would probably be a good idea to also try the reeds 1/4 strength harder and 1/4 strength softer, as everyone's embouchure is a bit different and that could impact your personal reed selection...GBK

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: jez 
Date:   2004-02-28 12:51

GBK,
Can you confirm that 'compared to an FOF, the tip-curve is identical'?
This was certainly not the case with the RC's I received some weeks ago. I mentioned the fact to Pablo with the reservation that the FOF shape suited me better as it matches all my mouthpieces. If he has made that change I am delighted, as I am very pleased with the batch I tried (I'm still using them) but was concerned about that one aspect.

By the way, many thanks for recommending the Spriggs ligature. I've just managed to acquire one (it always takes ages for things to filter through to UK) and am delighted with it.

jez

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  New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-02-28 20:46

jez... Gonzalez reeds are now in their second generation of packaging.

The original packaging of the FOF reeds were in brown boxes with the reeds in individual paper holders.

The newer FOF reeds are in blue boxes with the reeds in individual stiff cardboard holders.

When I compared the new Gonzalez "Regular Cut" reeds to the Gonzalez FOF, I based my observation on the FOF reeds found in the current blue boxes. Those tips are identical.

The Spriggs is a very "live" sounding ligature and it works especially well on a mouthpiece/reed set-up which is not overly bright to begin with. With an already bright sounding set-up. the Spriggs may be too much.

If a mouthpiece is the slightest bit stuffy, the Spriggs ligature seems to free everything up and is a great help. ...GBK

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-02-28 20:58

So the FOF reeds I have now (brown box) have a different tip than the new FOF reeds? I thought one of the "big deals" of the old tip was that it was similar to the old Morre reeds.

GBK, is this 'new tip' significantly different? I remember a tip change in V12s that noone seemed to like and I hope that I won't have to give up FOFs so soon after discovering them . . .

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-02-28 21:07

sfalexi wrote:

> So the FOF reeds I have now (brown box) have a different tip
> than the new FOF reeds? I thought one of the "big deals" of
> the old tip was that it was similar to the old Morre reeds.



I didn't say that the tips were different or had changed.

All I said is that I compared the new "Regular Cut" reeds to the current run of Gonzalez FOF reeds (still 1998 harvest) in the blue boxes and the tips were the same.

I did not have any of the older brown boxes on hand at the time when I made the comparison of the two reeds...GBK

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-02-29 16:26

Sorry. Got confused. I thought there was a change in the tips as well as the packaging. Must've misread it. Sorry for the trouble!

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: Topher 
Date:   2004-02-29 17:19

Yay! Gonzalez bass reeds!

I currently use Vandorens, as they are the most reliable reeds I know of for the bass. However, I still have issues with consistency from one reed to the next. I can't wait to try these new reeds out!

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: Wendy 
Date:   2004-02-29 20:28

GBK.... So where do the Mozart reeds fit into all this? I had thought that they were more like thinner, "regular cut" reeds, but apparently not. No one talks about them too much. What are they like?

Wendy

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 New! Gonzalez
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-03-01 05:33

Mozart and Gonzalez reeds are both made on a thick blank template (approx. 3.15 mm). Both blanks taper back from the tip to the heel of the reed (like the older Morre/Olivieri type reeds).

The Gonzalez tip is approximately 0.10 mm and the Mozart tip is approximately 0.11 mm.

Both reeds use the same cane and have the same initial scrape starting at the bark, but the Gonzalez reeds seem (to me) to have a bit more wood in the heart and shoulders of the reed.

Gonzalez FOF reeds are graded in 1/4 stength sizes and are 10 to a box. Mozart reeds are graded in 1/2 strength sizes and are 12 to a box.

There are a number of hand finishing steps taken in the production of Mozart reeds, thus the number of boxes produced (3000 - 5000 per year) is far fewer than the Gonzalez FOF.

Read this article by Stanley Geidel for some additional insight:

http://www.ocr.woodwind.org/articles/Geidel/geidel10.html

Perhaps Phil Shapiro (Davie Cane) could add more if he reads this thread...GBK



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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: moose6589 
Date:   2004-03-01 09:23

Wow, this is almost too much to believe. GBK, from your first impressions on the new Gonzalez, it appears that everything is great; consistency, tonguing, response, and sound are all good. And all this for only thirteen USD per box? It all seems too good to believe! Guess this could be my new dream reed! Well, only four more weeks until they come out... My only question is, do you think that they will be as long-lasting as the current Gonzalez reeds, because it just seems hard to believe that something so nice could be sold so cheaply?

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: DavieCane01 
Date:   2004-03-01 16:16

Hi everybody...As you all know, I try not to get too involved in the discussions here so as not to look like I'm "pushing the product" :-)
But, I do understand that there will be some confusion around now that there's a third reed line. I won't go into details here, but I will try to have specific measurements for all of our reeds available asap. I'll probably put it up on the website as soon as I have time to update it. I know...it's long overdue!

A few quick answers and then I'm out of here....
1) They're made from the same cane stock as the FOF's.
2) The thinner blank suggests a slightly shorter lifespan, but since it's the same cane as the FOF's maybe not? They're much too new to have any real data yet.
3) We have limited samples to offer at this time. Call us, ok?
4) Yes, we changed the FOF packaging. No, we didn't make a single change to the reed. Not one...we promise.

-Phil

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-03-01 16:27

Quote:

) Yes, we changed the FOF packaging. No, we didn't make a single change to the reed. Not one...we promise.


[breathes a very large sigh of relief][up]

Thanks for the skinny on them, Phil.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2004-03-01 16:52

What's all the brouhaha about reeds? Heck, Bill Gates said that all anyone would ever need is 64K, and I say all any clarinetist needs is a #1-1/2 brown box Rico.















I am kidding, of course.

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  New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-03-02 20:51

After speaking to Phil Shapiro about the difference beween the Gonzalez and Mozart reeds, I have now made a correction to my previous post. It now (correctly) reads:

" The Gonzalez tip is approximately 0.10 mm and the Mozart tip is approximately 0.11 mm." ...GBK

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 Re: New! Gonzalez
Author: Amanda S 
Date:   2004-03-04 01:34

How does the size of the reeds compare to vandorens(blue box)?? I play on a sanded down 3 1/2 cause the 3s are too soft and the 3 1/2 are too hard. Would it be easy to switch reed brands from vandoren?
Thanks, Amanda



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 Re: New! Gonzalez "Regular Cut" clarinet reeds - Evaluation, Test and Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-03-04 01:39

There is a clarinet reed size comparison chart on the Davie Cane web site:

http://www.daviecane.com/Pages/FAQ.html ...GBK



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