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Author: JMCraig
Date: 2003-12-27 16:12
Hi Folks,
I've seen some mention of this model in the archives and I'm interested enough to consider buying a used model. Does anyone know:
1. Whether something that calls itself a "147" in the ad is the same as the current TR 147 (2 years old, it claims)? (As in, is this really the same thing I've read about? Have there been any changes to the model over time that would suggest getting something newer? Has that model number been used with different letters for something different?)
2. How often these are listed for sale on the 'Net? (As in, should I jump on this and get it now since they're relatively rare to see for sale?)
3. Anyone used these with beginning (or otherwise) students (or themselves)?
Thanks much,
John
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2003-12-27 23:46
What kind of cost is attached?
Consider most used instruments likely candidates for service, on delivery.
(What does an overhaul cost in your area?)
PS - These are VERY well made instruments.
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Author: JMCraig
Date: 2003-12-28 01:11
I'm a bit unclear on how to send an e-mail from Tom's web site...but there does seem to be a link for sales inquiries; I can try that I suppose.
The cost is below $150--which seemed pretty good even if it's not in the fine condition that the seller says it's in. Even if it needed pretty well the works, it'd still be a lot less than a new one....
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Author: donald
Date: 2003-12-28 09:09
my (admitedly limited) experience with these clarinets is that they have excellent tone and intonation- leaving other plastic student horns way behind (if used with a good mouthpiece). The one i tried at Clarinetfest 2000 also had very good keywork- however the ones i have seen since then have not had keywork that was up to the standard of other instruments in the same price range. If you can get a 2nd hand instrument in the $150 (us$?) price range and there are no major problems with the keywork, i'd say you were getting a good deal.
donald nicholls
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Author: Ray
Date: 2003-12-28 15:37
Question 1: Tom Ridenour has sold one model of Bb clarinet and it has always been called the TR147. I'm pretty sure about that. There have been some improvements to the keywork since the earliest versions. I don't know how to tell an early version from a late version. Tom is very excited about his clarinets and would be happy to answer any of your questions. Give him a call.
This is a hard rubber clarinet, not plastic. Tom believes the tonal qualities are superior.
Question 2: They don't show up very often. I would grab it.
Question 3: Some band directors have outfitted their sections with TR147s and are very happy. I have spoken personally with one such director. It is a high quality clarinet, especially in terms of intonation, evenness of scale, and sound. I have played a couple of examples, and was very pleased. There were some adjustments to keywork necessary, but nothing you don't see on new instruments from the Big Four.
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Author: deblcooper
Date: 2004-01-14 20:52
I know I'm a little late on this topic... (late Holiday vacation!)
But did you all know that Tom worked for one of the "Gang of Four"
He was with the Leblanc Corporation where he participated in a number of activities, including the creation of new products,and clarinet design.... I believe it was the Opus!
just an fyi.
deb
www.godlyd.com
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2004-01-14 21:50
Among other things,, it'sd been said that Tom headed up the design of the V40 while at Leblanc, and it is an excellent plastic Clarinet. So every time SynBo speaks so highly of the TR147, it reminds me to try one (not done so yet).
John, if you decide not to buy that one, I'll send you five bux just to tell me where to get it. ![[cool]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/cool.gif) Sorry, SB....
Regards,
John
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Author: deblcooper
Date: 2004-01-15 07:48
John,
I'll up that $5....
Send me an email via yahoo.
deb
www.godlyd.com
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Author: FrankM
Date: 2004-01-15 17:46
I checked the web site and unless I'm looking in the wrong place, I see no mention of a hard rubber clarinet. Where can I learn more about this model?
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2004-01-15 21:08
Tom answers mail through : rcproducts@ev1.net
FWIW, I would not spend the money on his hand-tuned instruments.
The basic horn, second hand is a genuine bargain.
All the aftermarket tweaking should (in my opinion) be part of the upfront purchase price... if you're going to have the hand-tuned variant, better to buy one used, and have it sent to the shop.
After a basic overhaul, mine is a real winner.
Solid tuning, plays like my hideously expensive LeBlanc, and no one will steal it if unattended. (Who wants a rubber clarinet?)
.... I do!
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Author: deblcooper
Date: 2004-01-16 21:07
Hi Ray,
Actually, Tom also makes a model called the Arioso... I think the spelling is right.
Well, I'm not sure if it called the Arioso and then called the T147 at Brook Mays......
Probably a good question to send him?
deb
p.s. I have a Bb and an A on order!!!!
www.godlyd.com
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Author: Rev. Avery
Date: 2004-01-18 11:46
I've been in frequent contact with Tom within the past two - three weeks. I love this man. He has been so personable and helpful.
I found a used TR-147 in brand new condition and I'm buying it Monday. Can't wait to get it!
The difference between the older models and the newer models is the in-line trill key set up. They are more durable for more intense, harder use. The older ones work fine but are made differently. If I remember right Tom said the trill keys in the older models are like some of the Buffets in that when depressed they come up at an angle. The new models are made like the LeBlancs and come up straight when depressed. Also, the newer models have more posts holding the keys.
He said everything else about the Clarinets are the same: Sound, key work, etc.
Plus, his models are made from pure rubber. I guess the older rubber clarinets had some additives in rubber for the purpose of construction?? His is pure rubber. His also don't get the smell to them because of getting wet like the earlier ones made along time ago . He said that happened in the older models because of what was in the rubber mixture.
Now, I believe I'm quoting Tom correctly. However, it would be best to contact him personally. In other words, please don't say that Tom is wrong about anything based upon what I've said. Contact him directly. He's been so great to work with.
I'll have more to say under a separate topic heading in a few days.
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