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 Wagner's or Baermann's adagio?
Author: Barry 
Date:   1999-12-06 20:07

I just heard Baermann's 3rd quintet for clarinet and strings and discovered that the slow movement is identical to "Wagner's adagio"for clarinet and orchestra. Does anyone know who thought of it first?

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 RE: Wagner's or Baermann's adagio?
Author: Katherine Pincock 
Date:   1999-12-06 22:42

We spent a lot of time talking about this last year in my performance class. It is, in fact, Baermann's--in fact, the name "Wagner", from what I've been told, was attached to the Adagio only for selling purposes. After all, who's heard of that Baermann guy? ;-) This is surprisingly common before this century--the best way to get more copies of your music sold was to attach a famous name to it. It's certainly provided lots of work for the historians here at Western ;-)

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 RE: Wagner's or Baermann's adagio?
Author: HIROSHI 
Date:   1999-12-07 00:59

What Baerman? Heinrich,not Carl. Recommend to buy Boston Music Harold a Wright seriese CD and read its liner note.

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 RE: Wagner's or Baermann's adagio?
Author: barry 
Date:   1999-12-08 18:18

Katherine,
I was so happy to hear that, since I love the adagio and have never been able to stand Wagner. Confirms all my prejudices.

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 RE: Wagner's or Baermann's adagio?
Author: Tim2 
Date:   1999-12-09 00:47

Thank you for the information, Katherine. I too am interested about this. Now I know where it is from. Thanks, Barry, for the quintet info.

Katherine, copyright must not have meant much then, hey?

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 RE: Wagner's or Baermann's adagio?
Author: Dee 
Date:   1999-12-09 03:59



Tim2 wrote:
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Thank you for the information, Katherine. I too am interested about this. Now I know where it is from. Thanks, Barry, for the quintet info.

Katherine, copyright must not have meant much then, hey?
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Copyright laws were very weak and poorly enforced where they even existed. For example the US copyright law that was in force in the middle of the 1800s only allowed a period of copyright protection for 14 years and, I believe, no renewal.

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 RE: Wagner's or Baermann's adagio?
Author: Katherine Pincock 
Date:   1999-12-11 15:50

Copyrighting's better now, and there are other ways to get around the elapsing of copyright...like Stravinsky, who always revised his works the year BEFORE copyright expired ;-)

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