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 attack problems
Author: krawfish3x 
Date:   2003-11-13 22:35

i have an audition coming up soon on the Concertino by Weber and aside a few minor problems the big problem im having it the very first note. its a Bb in the clarion register which starts at a piano, crecsendos, then decrecsendos. my problem is that when i start the note i get a tud when i start the note instead of just tone. any suggestions on how to fix this?

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 Re: attack problems
Author: jez 
Date:   2003-11-13 22:55

Don't tongue.

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 Re: attack problems
Author: Tom Piercy 
Date:   2003-11-13 23:58

I agree with jez above.

Don't start the note with the tongue; use air only to start the note sounding. Try experimenting with how much embouchure and air presusre you need to get the note to sound when you want it - preferably on the downbeat and not after (conductor's usually like it that way).

Tom Piercy

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 Re: attack problems
Author: ron b 
Date:   2003-11-14 01:03

Don't attack. "Release".

- ron b -

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 Re: attack problems
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-11-14 04:16

Use a breath attack - Start the air moving before the downbeat, increase the air speed at the downbeat so the note will sound without tonguing.

If you do it correctly, the effect will make it seem as if the note simply appears from nowhere...GBK

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 Re: attack problems
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2003-11-14 13:02

To practice the release, lightly hold the reed in place with your tongue and blow until the note begins to sound.

Repeatedly damp the reed, without stopping the note altogether.

Sounds like an impossibility, but it can be done.
(Even by a hack like mice-elf.)

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 Re: attack problems
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2003-11-15 19:20

Don't take a huge breath-just enough air to get you to the end of the phrase. Don't take a sharp, fast breath. Breathe slowly and deeply, take 2 or 3 beats to complete the breath, and when you enter blow the air at the same speed as you inhaled.

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 Re: attack problems
Author: Someone who knows 
Date:   2003-11-16 14:22





Post Edited (2004-05-29 00:52)

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 Re: attack problems
Author: Brenda 
Date:   2003-11-16 23:16

This was brought up before, unfortunately a few weeks after I needed to know the same thing. The advice was to start the flow of air shortly before the measure, then barely touch the reed with your tongue to get the note started exactly on time. This will bring out the note in a pp without it's being delayed, or your having to play it loud to have it come out. It works for me - too bad it's after I needed to know.

GBK has years more experience, so his suggestion will undoubtedly work as we get that much more experience at playing. Probably too, his suggestion would work if strong air support is already present even before you attempt to sound the note. So much technique depends on having that support always present and being able to relax sufficiently, then other things start falling into place.



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 Re: attack problems
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2003-11-16 23:25

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=14529&t=14450 Approximately halfway down the page is a great reply by Ken on the concertino. An overview of the entire piece and many helpful tips/hints.

GL.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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