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 Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-25 21:01

Through the generosity of a few colleagues I have assembled enough samples of the new Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds to now give them a preliminary review.

All reeds tested were the 3.5 strength. The reeds were broken in and prepared during the course of a week.

Observations:
The packaging is a bit more elaborate than the traditional or V12 reeds, but the reeds still come in the same individual plastic holders found in other Vandoren reeds.

The 56 reeds are single cut, as opposed to the the straight file cut of the V12's and Blue box.

The blank is thick (slightly more than the V12) and tapers to the butt end (similar, but not as tapered as the Gonzalez FOF or older Morré)

The tip seems to be thicker than the V12.

The tip is more rounded than previous "flat tip" V12s - they now are reminiscent of the older Vandoren reeds with the more curved tip profile.

Playing (after break-in):
The 3.5 strength of the 56 reeds seem to play a bit softer than V12's of the same strength, but the thicker tip makes them a bit darker and initially less responsive. To achieve the response I prefer, the tip needed to be slightly worked down.

Of the samples I tried, the consistancy of grading was only fair - a few played much harder than the median 3.5 and a few much softer than 3.5.

The quality of cane seems the same as the V12 - a few reeds had a nice fiber pattern extending to the tip, but the majority had inconsitant grouping of fibers, some with large gaps. Many had fibers that did not reach the tip area at all.

There were no severely miscut reeds in the samples I tried.

Most reeds played adequately right out of the box.

Conclusions:
The inconsistant fiber pattern initially troubled me, and as suspected, many of the 56 reeds had a short useful life.

Of the reeds that were the most promising, the sound is more compact, and seemingly one dimensional. I never was able to get the "ring" that previous V12's or Blue box reeds would often give. I am also a bit tentative about their projection in a large hall, however I was not able to test them in a large stage setting.

Thus, as I did not see a vast improvement in the cane quality, but merely a different cut and profile from previous V12 or Blue box reeds, at this time I do not think the suggested retail price is justified ...GBK



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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-25 22:56

One addition: I am not sure of the Vandoren 56 reeds' present availability.

All samples that I collected and tried were given to me...GBK

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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2003-07-26 05:10

Looks like this new reed may not be what many had hoped. It seems that the problem is cane quality which has plagued Vandoren all along.

Regards
Mark



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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2003-07-26 05:19
Attachment:  Vandoren Reed Strength Comparison Chart.jpg (183k)

Here is the Vandoren strength chart for anyone interested.

Mark

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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-07-26 19:00

So what niche do these new reeds fill????

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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: donald 
Date:   2003-07-27 11:02

i have two samples of this reed, and i'm not too interested in buying boxes of them at the alarmingly high price. However i intend to do some work using the 56 design as a template on my reedual- see what happens when i duplicate this profile on some good cane.
donald

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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-07-27 19:30

Donald... Even though you only had 2 samples to try, what were your impressions of the 56 reeds? ...GBK



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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: wyatt 
Date:   2003-08-16 14:48

i picked up two 56 at the fest. i have only used one of them and it is great (2 1/2). It played great right from the start. i'm saving the second one. I have checked with a couple of sellers and neither of them have received a shipment.

bob gardner}ÜJ

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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2003-08-16 21:57

We are not even getting the first samples until January 2004. We have just got the first shipment of the ZZ sax reeds but they only sent some 3's and mainly 3 1/2 and 4 with the other strengths coming late September. I think the ZZ's are supposed to be the sax version of the 56. I have tried a couple only and they played soft and despite the hype as GBK says the fibre pattern of the reed doesn't look that promising. They would do better to improve the consistency of the blue box reeds which have gone from bad to worse rather than bring out a new model.

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 Re: Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic reeds - Review
Author: allencole 
Date:   2003-08-17 00:12

Having long abandoned this brand due to bitter experiences, I would venture that introducing this model is primarily a smokescreen for their failure in the quality control dept. Maybe some study with the Gonzales/Zonda folks is in order...

Allen Cole

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