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 double lip
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2003-01-24 09:02

A number of you recommended using double-lip embouchure as a remedial technique for excessive biting. I'm trying it with one of my students, but he has a gap between his top two front teeth, which makes it quite painful for him. Is it OK to let the clarinet rest on the lap to ease the pressure on the upper lip?

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 RE: double lip
Author: Karel 
Date:   2003-01-24 09:46

A lot has been written here about "guards" fashioned to cover the teeth and protect the lip. Something like that should solve your lad's problem because it will also "fill the gap". A better solution, I think, than resting the clarinet on a knee.

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 RE: double lip
Author: Brent 
Date:   2003-01-24 11:40

Although there is disagreement in the professional community about resting the clarinet on the knee. I was taught growing up that this was a big no-no, but when i studied later with one of the main players in Cincinnati, he switched me to double lip. He told me that putting the bell of the clarinet on my knee is acceptable, and even useful, especially playing double lip. What you don't want to do is restrict the air flow out of the bell in any way, or the low E/B and to a lesser extent the F/C and F#/C# will be quite stuffy--so don't hold the bell *between* the knees.

When i play Eb clarinet i have to put the case on my lap and the clarinet on that.

Others feel differently, as i said, and if you are to perform standing up, you cannot do this, of course. I've had to get used to playing without resting the clarinet on my knees in order to play standing up, although so far the occasions to do so have been limited to Benny Goodman and Artie Shaw wannabe type solos in big band.

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 RE: double lip
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2003-01-24 11:55

It sure is cheaper than any of the gizmos out there designed to support the clarinet.

It is also something that can be done as needed.

Double lip training really works, and will lead to better single lip playing if your student doesn't take to DL entirely!

(You should see MY mouthpiece patches - shredded in weeks!)

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 RE: double lip
Author: d dow 
Date:   2003-01-24 12:27

I played double lip for the first 10 years on clarinet, and found that once I switched to single lip things got far better...

just a personal comment I thought I would share.

Sincerely,
DD

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 RE: double lip
Author: Bob 
Date:   2003-01-24 13:05

One of the primary reqirements of successful clarinet playing is to be comfortable and if resting the bell on one's knee is comfortable what's the beef? Whether single or double lip is "better" is also a personal thing; I play both ways and even switch while playing when I feel it's necessary. Again we come up against these "old wives' tales" about what's best.

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 RE: double lip
Author: William 
Date:   2003-01-24 15:00

It's OK--just resist tapping your foot.

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 RE: double lip
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2003-01-24 21:09

It's not the foot tapping - it's the head nodding.

In faster sections the player looks like a bobble head doll over a cobble stone road.

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 RE: double lip
Author: beth 
Date:   2003-01-25 01:01

Don't forget body weaving...most distracting for the audience and most annoying to sit behind one who does it!

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 RE: double lip
Author: RA 
Date:   2003-01-25 16:42

Hey, I haven't been taught to double lip although I'm sure I could learn fairly quickly. I was playing liturgically within the first year. So, pretty impressive to pass with those flying colours. This question has nothing to do with DL'ing but what does a person do when they are double jointed in one finger and it freezes during a performance and they can't stop playing? J/C. This has only happend once during my five years of playing.

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 RE: double lip
Author: Meighan Stoops 
Date:   2003-01-26 04:05

I'd be shocked if someone (especially a beginner) was able to change from single to double lip and NOT feel some pain. I played with double lip for a year and (in the beginning) I definitely needed the aid of my knees or a neckstrap to take off some of the pressure. And I'm sure I heard of Harlold Wright sitting down for a performance of the Mozart Concerto. I think you should continue a bit of double lip practice with your student and let him rest it on his knees.

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