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 Altissimo combination fingerings
Author: WoodwindOz 
Date:   2018-04-19 18:51

I'm just wondering what combinations of fingers people use when dealing with altissimo Eb to either E or F.

I mostly use short fingerings so it's not an issue for me, but I always teach long fingerings to my students first. I have a student currently working through AMEB grades who now needs to do a chromatic up to E. Given it's exam technical work, I've advised that he needs to use the long fingerings. Currently I'm having him use the standard long Eb: 1/2 XXB|0XX and then adding RH G# and Eb to get to the E which is working but it seems so cumbersome. Any other options besides short fingerings?

If it makes a difference, he is currently playing on a newish Buffet intermediate model (has 3rd 8ve).

Rachel

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 Re: Altissimo combination fingerings
Author: oboist2 
Date:   2018-04-20 01:56

Currently I play and Automatic open system thumbplate oboe, but when I played my Fossati semiautomatic conservatoire oboe, my teacher Josef Hanic, taught me a new fingering for the E flat which meant I could play a standard long to E (as my short E was not always secure). The top E flat was 3rd octave key, half hole, 2nd and third holes in the left hand, and nothing in the right. This was brilliant, I was always able to get it. I wondered how I managed without it and why I did not know about it prior, but the previous oboe I had before that, a Loree, did not have the 3rd octave key, which is essential for this fingering. My few students all use this fingering now and swear by it. All the very best.

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 Re: Altissimo combination fingerings
Author: WoodwindOz 
Date:   2018-04-20 06:14

That's the fingering I almost always play for my Eb as the standard fingering on my oboe is incredibly resistant, but I wonder how this would go down in an exam situation for technical work.

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 Re: Altissimo combination fingerings
Author: oboist2 
Date:   2018-04-21 02:07

I should imagine, you would not have any issues with that fingering in technical passages. I used to play all my studies using that fingering ( Ferling, Lyon, Bozza etc), and once I learned that fingering and incorporated it into my playing, it rapidly became my favourite and is one thing I sorely miss with my current setup.

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 Re: Altissimo combination fingerings
Author: jhoyla 
Date:   2018-04-22 18:50

I assume you are aware of these pages?

This website has full fingering charts - both basic and alternative fingerings - for all the standard woodwinds. Here is the basic chart for the altissimo register:
http://wfg.woodwind.org/oboe/ob_bas_3.html

The alternative fingerings page has the fingering you described, plus many more:
http://wfg.woodwind.org/oboe/ob_alt_3.html



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 Re: Altissimo combination fingerings
Author: Barry Vincent 
Date:   2018-04-23 05:26

I assume that what is meant by 'short fingerings for high E and F is by just using the LH standard fingerings for these notes and not using the RH fingerings. If that's the case, then both of these work reasonably well for me on my Howarth S2 and Bundy English Thumb Plate.

Skyfacer

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