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Author: oboi
Date: 2012-08-14 00:17
As some might already know, Quodlibet closed down and so FHREDs are no longer in production. I already had to scramble a bit to find some for sale (wanted a long one in case holding my oboe becomes a major problem in the future). A few stores still have it.
While we're on the subject, I'm feeling a bit stupid now because the pro FHRED I got came without instructions and I can't for the life of me figure out how to adjust it. Can someone with the pro model tell me how you adjust it?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-08-14 12:13
That is such a shame. Does anyone else make a similar thing?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
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Author: Merlin_Williams
Date: 2012-08-14 12:40
I don't know of anything quite like that.
I do remember dealing with Quodlibet when I managed a WW store in Toronto. Their dealer terms were awkward, to say the least.
Jupiter Canada Artist/Clinician
Stratford Shakespeare Festival musician
Woodwind Doubling Channel Creator on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/WoodwindDoubling
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Author: huboboe
Date: 2012-08-14 13:47
There is a different solution out there - the W.R.I.S.T. support. It mounts on your stand (which makes it unusable in some circumstances) and supports the instrument on a spring which can be adjusted for more or less flexibility.
I've used it and found it very satisfactory.
There's a video demo by the late, great Grover Shiltz you can watch at:
http://www.chicagoreedcompany.com/wrist.html
Hope this helps...
Robert Hubbard
WestwindDoubleReed.com
1-888-579-6020
bob@westwinddoublereed.com
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-08-14 14:17
I've seen the W.R.I.S.T. support but don't think it's as versatile as the Fhred which can be used while both seated or standing (with the belt attachment).
I suppose it'll only be a matter of time when someone else starts making supports based on the Fhred principle.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: johnt
Date: 2012-08-14 14:51
Michael Benthin's M.U.T.S. is also an option which can be used sitting or standing…made from bicycle spokes, of all things. Nifty invention…custom made to fit the user. It folds up into a vinyl package which fits nicely into a gig bag. It's light & very portable. About a C-note as I recall.
Michael can be reached as follows:
Michael Benthin
24 Poor Farm Rd
Pennington, NJ 08534
1-609-737-3867
benthin@prodigy.net
Best,
john
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Author: theoboefairy
Date: 2012-08-15 04:42
Hi and Good evening. I have a few FHREDS left over if anyone wants to try them. Thanks! hannah
hannahsoboes
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Author: GoodWinds ★2017
Date: 2012-08-15 06:37
Do they also work for clarinet, or does one have to buy a separate item? (my ignorance is showing, but I'm having trouble with my wrist/hands weight-bearing lately...)
GoodWinds
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-08-15 08:23
They do indeed work for clarinets as well - they clip to the thumbrest (you may need to fit a ring to it or swap it for one with a ring fitted) so will take the weight off your right arm but still allow freedom of movement and good posture.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: oboi
Date: 2012-08-15 09:44
You either need a ring on your thumbrest or you need an adapter to fit on an adjustable thumbrest. Some shops sell adapters and it needs to fit your particular rest. The only tricky thing I find with these things is that you need it to rest on a non-slippery flat-ish surface. Some chairs are terrible and so I use a mousepad flipped upside down to provide enough grip for the FHRED, else it will slip. Some orchestra chairs are also notoriously shallow so you might need to sit farther back than you normally would.
I do think it restricts your motion so for oboe I'd only use it when my pain flares up. It is the only way I can play EH since my thumb just can't handle the weight. I find a neckstrap ineffective (to keep an appropriate angle means you put most of the instrument weight on the thumb anyway). Haven't tried the floor peg as that means I can't put the horn on the stand without dismantling. Also haven't tried the hook that attaches to the stand because I just *know* I'd end up yanking the whole music stand onto the floor.
Seriously, does someone have the instructions for adjusting the Pro model? I still can't figure it out! :-P
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Author: jhoyla
Date: 2012-08-15 10:24
the waybackmachine is your friend:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080513191139/http://www.quodlibet.com/FhredConcert.php
J.
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Author: RobinDesHautbois
Date: 2012-08-15 10:53
Just my 2 cents worth, but I've only seen 1 FHRED in action and I'm not disappointed they stopped production. In my opinion, many of these "ergonomic gadgets" do not correctly address the muscular-skeletal origin of our problems.
When I had bad tendonitis, what I did (with lots of success) was to tie a string to my music stand and a hook on the other end (you can use a strong paper clip if you can't find a decent hook). That hook grabs the bell by the low Bb rod, thus supporting the weight of the instrument while not impeding your own body motion.
Alternatively, on this BBoard, I saw links to a bell-spring support that ties on to the stand. I'll have to search for the link.... I keep forgetting to keep a short-cut. This is essentially the same idea as my string and hook, but perhaps even better/freer.
Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music
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Author: oboi
Date: 2012-08-15 19:54
Thanks for the link, J. Cool archive site! I was even trying to find cached pages to no avail.
Ok, so what I gathered from what works on that page, the middle part can tuck in. It is a fixed length. So you either want it or not. The threaded top part is the "fine" adjustment but is not collapsible (the little lock doesn't tuck in). So even when I'm stowing it away, it stays extended. Correct? The threaded part does not collapse? If so I'm not seeing the big improvement of this over the Standard model.
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