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 Re: Copland Cadenza Interpretation?
Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date:   2008-10-07 05:45

Ed Palanker wrote:

>> Nielsen quoted Copland as saying "I always felt that there was enough room for interpretation even when everything is written out." My point exactly.>>

But, what that means is that interpretation can take place without changing what is written. Our notation underdetermines performance, because the sort of nuance that makes the Copland cadenza have 'a Brazilian flavour', say, lives in variations of tone-colour and accent-type, not in taking wild liberties with the rhythms and adding spurious fermatas.

My previous point to you was to say that it seems to me that you -- or if not you, then others -- teach 'good clarinet sound' rather than promoting the ability of a student to make those sorts of variations. And notice, PROMOTE. Someone who isn't encouraged to be aware of those things is less likely to find the possibility of using them in musical performance. It's no good just encouraging us to do what we currently 'like', even if in the end that's exactly what performance comes down to. The journey of finding out what we TRULY like has to run up against the real-world opposition of seeing what is missing in our current endeavours.

>> Thank you for reminding us that just because a composer writes something on paper that they don't necessarily expect, or even want, everyone to play it exactly the same way so there's no difference between players. >>

No, of course not. But they expect people to play what they wrote; which as I have tried to explain, is not the same thing.

Tony
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