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 Dreydlekh/turns?
Author: Benni 
Date:   2003-07-15 03:25

I did a search before posting, but I didn't really find anything about playing turns in klezmer music, other than that they are called dreydlekh. Could someone give me a few guidelines about how to play these? Sometimes I'll just make up something that sounds OKeh, but I'd like to make up something that sounds good every time!  ;)



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 Re: Dreydlekh/turns?
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2003-07-15 11:48

"Dreydlekh" is a generic term for ornamentation used in Klezmer music.

Try Michele Gingras' treatise for more information:

http://www.clarinet-saxophone.asn.au/articles/klezmer.pdf

Ralph

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 Re: Dreydlekh/turns?
Author: Benni 
Date:   2003-07-15 16:50

Thank you! That had a lot of great information and also answered some other questions I had about klezmer!

Unfortunately, it didn't have an answer to one thing I was hoping to find: when one sees a symbol that looks like a classical symbol for a turn, what is commonly played? (There were several of these in the duets I was playing w/ a friend yesterday . . . )



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 Re: Dreydlekh/turns?
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2003-07-15 17:15

If it is what I think it is, these are used in Greek & Turkish music, too. Play it ON the beat. For example, if one of these is on a D, play rapidly D-E-D-C then hold the D. Or for minor, D-Eflat-D-Dflat, or whatever other variation sounds good.

Another good source book is Henry Sapoznik's "Compleat Klezmer", with archival audio CD from Tara Publications (look them up on Google.)

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 Re: Dreydlekh/turns?
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2003-07-15 20:09

The turns I described are better for held notes than for short ones.

The turns on Ms. Gingras' article are usually turned up but not down. The first E is usually played E-F-E very quickly, on the beat. Alternatively, play E-F very quickly, and swallow the F.

There are no formal rules for ornamentation, as such. You will hear dramatically different approaches from Naftule Brandwein and Dave Tarras, who lived during roughly the same time period. The same is true of contemporary players.

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 Re: Dreydlekh/turns?
Author: Benni 
Date:   2003-07-16 01:28

Thanks! The long note advice was really what I needed, but the short note info will come in handy, too. Now those klez duets I've been playing will sound more like, well, klezmer! [grin]



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