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 Buffet E11 too bright
Author: Treblerose81 
Date:   2021-04-23 02:00

Hi, New to the boards, I've been playing for almost 30 years though. I have a 1997 Buffet E11 special edition with silver plated keys. It's in great shape (one store tried telling me it was expired a couple years ago, it just needed 3 pads and some adjustments.) I know it's not going to compare to a pro, but I've always loved it's sound, and it plays smoother and with less resistance then any other I've played. As I've gotten older, I've started appreciating a darker sound more, especially for playing in church with a P&W group. I've been debating either getting a second clarinet with a darker sound for that, and keeping this one with the symphonic band I play with, or if I should get a different barrel. I've tried a Selmer 10G barrel, it gave a bit darker tone, but not significant. I have a K10M mouthpiece and usually use Mitchell Lurie prestige 3.5s, (please don't suggest vandoren, can't stand them and they make my lips burn).

On another note, I had a lovely Selmer Eb (sop) years ago that had a rich slightly dark tone, but I don't remember what model style it was, wouldn't mind finding one like it.

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 Re: Buffet E11 too bright
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2021-04-23 04:33

Treblerose81 wrote:

> I've been
> debating either getting a second clarinet with a darker sound
> for that, and keeping this one with the symphonic band I play
> with, or if I should get a different barrel. I've tried a
> Selmer 10G barrel, it gave a bit darker tone, but not
> significant.

I'm assuming by wanting a "darker" tone you mean that you want to take a little edge off the sound you get with the barrel you're using (is it the original?). You might check out something in Morrie Backun's line of barrels. I have several in my desk drawer and have never used them much because to me they're on the dull-sounding side, but that might be useful for your purpose. My impression of Selmer barrels isn't one of "dark," covered sound with little edge - the few Selmer barrels I've tried have been rather in the opposite direction.

Karl

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 Re: Buffet E11 too bright
Author: Max S-D 
Date:   2021-04-23 05:20

If I were looking for a darker tone, I would start with reeds, then mouthpieces.

I haven't played the Mitchell Luries in a while, but I remember them being a bit more colorful (maybe perceived as brighter) than the Vandoren V12 I was playing at the time. You might want to check out some of the "darker" reeds on the market. Since you don't like Vandoren, maybe try the D'Addario Reserve Classic or Evolution reeds, which I think are darker, though I haven't tried either in a few years. Reeds on the "darker" end of the spectrum that I have particularly liked are the Peter Leuthner French Cut and the Behn Brio. I found both to be quite consistent. I have never quite gotten along with the Gonzalez FOF, but they are quite dark in sound, for me at least.

If you go the mouthpiece route, the Vandoren B40 and BD5 are quite popular for players going for that kind of tone. You might also want to check out the Hawkins/Backun Vocalise mouthpieces, which I found too dark for my own preferences, but might suit you. They seemed to be very well made, but I prefer a sound that is a bit less dark. All of the models I mentioned are fairly reasonably priced and usually available for trial.

I don't think the E11 is going to keep you from getting a dark tone.

All that said, if you want to get a new clarinet, don't let me stop you!

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