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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-04-29 22:41
Is he dressed properly for that style of music? I wouldn't know.
Stan in Orlando
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-04-30 00:56
For me the fascinating thing about it is that the clarinet track almost makes this sort of music listenable (does this mean real fans would hate it?). Also the clarinet line is almost Klezmer in style. I wonder if I listen to "rock" with "Klezmer ears" will it allow me to appreciate this form of music?
probably not
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: wanabe
Date: 2014-04-30 05:44
Forget it. No matter how good the playing is, It's still no more than an effort to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2014-04-30 07:39
I like death metal, actually...And I dig the way this guy puts clarinet into it.
I swear I have some of the most eclectic musical tastes. It always surprises folks when I tell them I like hard rock/heavy metal/death metal. I'm in my mid-forties and female, plus the added classical degrees from conservatories...And I play Balkan folk music and listen to this loud stuff...
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Author: Clarineteer
Date: 2014-04-30 12:15
Something tells me you have to be high on drugs to appreciate this style of music.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2014-04-30 18:36
I loved "Necrophagist" -- much to my own suprise -- and so I listened to some of Caleb Canatheviphth's other YouTube tracks linked to it, including one for bass clarinet aptly titled "Meshuggeh." On "Meshuggeh," he's sitting in the back seat of a car. His hands aren't visible most of the time. I noticed I got bored with that one, even though it sounds quite a bit like "Necrophagist," so I went back to "Necrophagist" and listened to it again, this time with my eyes closed.
Interesting -- when I couldn't see him, that track bored me, too, for the same reason: the extreme repetitiveness. Something about watching his fingers slamming the keys with exaggerated motions is hypnotic for me. I don't like it when classical clarinet players dip, swoop, gyrate, twerk, whatever, but moving around looks right with death-metal.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-04-30 19:01
Lelia- indeed there is more to music performance than just the sound. And the visuals can either add or detract. Nixon "won" the 1960 debates with Kennedy according to radio listeners, but lost according to TV viewers.
I, too, found Necrophagist fascinating on many fronts, though I could only take it for a few minutes. Music is so broad and varied, like all human culture, and that's neat!
Stan in Orlando
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Author: William
Date: 2014-04-30 19:02
What a waste of expensive Backun stuff. If this is the future of clarinet playing, I'll pick the trombone.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-04-30 21:35
>> I am not high on drugs. Really. <<
Sounds like something that someone who is high on drugs would say...
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2014-04-30 21:57
Seriously though. I know how it sounds but I'm not!
I'm a professional clarinet teacher and performer!
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-05-01 01:25
I think there's another universe where all the classically trained clarinetists (and high class orchestras) and universities play music that sounds like our death metal. Perhaps in that universe it is called "Mozart".
And their radical socially unacceptable music sounds like our Mozart, but perhaps is called "death metal". And it is reviled by the classical establishment, except for a few fringe players who dabble a bit, and admit "Yes, I like death metal (our Mozart sound). But don't worry, I still love Mozart (our death metal sound)".
Imagine that you, with your DNA and innate musical ear and abilities, were born into that alternate universe. Do you not think you would grow up thinking in reverse about these 2 styles of music? If you now love the sound of Mozart and detest the sound of death metal, do you imagine your personal taste would arrive at the same place with everything musical in your past reversed? Too bad we can't run these experiments.
Stan in Orlando
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2014-05-01 19:59
Sounds good to me. He is involved with the music. There is lots of energy and skill involved. I give it 10 stars for being refreshing to my ears. The duration might be the drawback here but that may just be my lack of attention span.
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: GaryH
Date: 2014-05-02 16:57
Let those that can duplicate what he's doing at the same tempo be the first to cast stones.
It didn't care for it, but there's a lot I see that is being passed off as clarinet playing that I don't care for.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2014-05-02 17:51
Gary, I could sightread it.
Wouldn't say I disliked it, there is a certain "wow, I'm way too old to listen to that style and think anything but "bizarre, and cool" - just not my cup of tea.
I just got the Sheetmusic for the Lindberg Clarinet Concerto.
That thing overall is NOT sightreadable. Fun though if you appreciate mental pain.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2014-05-02 20:59
I've never particularly been fond of Death Metal, but I think this is very good. He plays with verve and enthusiasm and some considerable skill. It's still not my music of choice, but I have to admit to liking this track.
Tony F.
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Author: clarinetwife
Date: 2014-05-02 21:13
@fskelley: (and any Trekkers out there) I always got a kick out of the humans' reaction to the Klingon opera Worf listened to on Star Trek Next Generation.
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Author: clarinetwife
Date: 2014-05-02 21:20
Whoa, he really gets rockin about the 3 1/2 minute mark, really sounds like guitar shredding. He sure uses the full range of the instrument.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-05-02 21:32
I'll have to look up the Klingon "Worf" bits on YouTube. I'm a fan of the original series and about half of the movies, but never got into the later stuff.
David- I absolutely believe and envy you that you could sight read at tempo an accurate transcription of this, or just about anything else (actually playable) that man, woman, or machine might write on paper. Such are the requirements of high end art music. Anyone who suffers through a university performance degree in clarinet or piano or accordion must gain such skill at some level or flunk out. I wonder what it must feel like to sit down and perfectly play something monstrously difficult and brand new to you, and react to it (for good or for bad) for the first time. Do you have any examples where your initial impression was much higher or lower than you eventually had? If so, to what extent was that personal or influenced by others?
Stan in Orlando
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2014-05-02 21:46
Often it will improve how I feel about the work.
Some pieces (Opera for me for instance) I would much rather play than be in the Audience.
Way back, the Hindemith quintet was another rather play than hear.
Some really modern works such as the Olah, you hear, then see, and just don't like that much because they are so dang difficult.
I say that partly in jest.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
Post Edited (2014-05-02 21:47)
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2014-05-03 02:32
In response to Gary's comments I could also sight read this piece easily. (Well at least the first few notes. The remainder would be very approximate.) Most of us are not David Blumberg technically but still have some critical thinking ability. We can like or dislike with substantiation or not. I don't have to be better than Martin Frost to not be thrilled about his dancing.
Freelance woodwind performer
Post Edited (2014-05-03 02:33)
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2014-05-04 02:18
I was disagreeing with Gary's thought, " Let those that can duplicate what he's doing at the same tempo be the first to cast stones."
I would also say that critical thinking of bulletin board participants varies widely . Some people just don't want to go there and especially don't want to express their ideas.
Freelance woodwind performer
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