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Author: potatohead
Date: 2004-06-04 17:28
I attached my lyre onto my old Yamaha plastic clarinet for marching band for the first time, and when the music came to a part where I had to use left hand C, the hole did not close all the way and the note would not come out. I searched the BBoard and found that some of you had a similar problem. There was no solution written, but do any of you know how to fix it? It's very frustrating...
-MG
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Author: Dan1937
Date: 2004-06-04 18:08
I never had the problem personally, but if the lyre attaches between the upper and lower joints (yes, I've seen them attached to the bell ring!), the left hand F/C key spatula may not go down far enough to close the pad. All that would be necessary is to GENTLY and SLOWLY bend the spatula upward just enough that the pad closes fully when you press the key.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-06-04 18:35
I used to have that same problem. Maybe you can find alternative fingerings to using the Left hand C. Post the passage and maybe we can help out. If worst comes to worst, then just like Alex said, it's probably not ALL that important (depends on the passage). You can have someone else play that C and skip some notes before hand/after and you can pick up and the passage will SOUND seamless . . .
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-06-04 18:46
Forget the lyre.
Nail the music on the back of the person in front of you.
Use either the 8d or 10d common galvanized...GBK
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-06-04 18:51
Not to mention for the shows, you won't be allowed to use a lyre (at least not for one that's being judged). So you'll HAVE to have the music memorized by then. And you won't have ANY problems.
And when you practice on your own, put the music (albeit little) on a stand so you don't have any metals interfering with your fingering.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-06-04 19:09
Ask yourself: How would Marcellus or Drucker handle the problem?
Then the answer should become clear to you.
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Author: potatohead
Date: 2004-06-04 20:50
I will end up memorizing this music so I will not need the lyre for the half-time show, but we also have a sleu of stand music that we use flip folders with.
I can't go around using that fingering for the C because we are playing a jazz-y type song and it goes from C to Eb numerous times so it's something that HAS to be fixed... Right now it feels like half of the whole song IS that C. ![[frown]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie2.gif)
Dan1937, I will try that and see if it helps... then.. well, who knows.
Thanks and will try,
MG
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Author: BobD
Date: 2004-06-04 21:05
If your eyesight is OK then put the lyre on the bell end tenon joint.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-06-04 22:20
GBK, I hoped that David would respond to your advice [cant stop laughing !!] How about a post-it note that also says "Kick Me" Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2004-06-05 03:55
Not all lyres are the same. You might try to find one with a thinner mounting ring. Lacking that, get someone who does metal work to carefully shave a recess in the mounting ring to clear the key. This can be done with a bench grinder, or a file. Be careful not to remove so much metal that the ring breaks, though lyres used to be cheap, I haven't bought one in 40 years!
Our local marching band seems to not use lyres in the stands, they balance the flip books on the seat dext to them or against a case, or get someone in the band front to hold it. If you use the lyre in the stands, you will need to get it off the instrument (including the ring) before you leave the stands some time in the 2nd quarter to line up for your show.
Watch out for wind, the lyre and book can stress the tenons, even on plastic instruments or even wrench the horn our of your hands.
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