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 Re: Russianoff's students
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2024-06-30 17:03

brycon wrote:

> SecondTry,
>
> Yeah, I remember now the pedantry.
>
> Look, I studied with one of Russianoff's students for about
> eight years and was simply trying to provide context for his
> comments on notation because 1. I think notation is interesting
> and 2. I think Russianoff's teaching is interesting. But I
> don't think getting into weird debates simply for the purposes
> of winning internet arguments is interesting. So I'll hold back
> from responding to you in the future (unless, of course, you
> actually want to have a good-faith discussion about something).

Right... my pedantry.

Let's look at posts that kick this off:

I say, accurately:

"There are cases in which a composer has marked a piece because that's how they want it played--and that should be respected..."

I don't say, "every marking of every piece should be respected." Just that there are some cases, implying that there are situations where this is not the case where 'play as written' is appropriate. This is completely factual and impossible to disagree with, and yet you find a way:.


"Yes and no. In the case of Stravinsky...."

Then I say, also accurately:

"there are cases where an auditioner would be wise to play (as if) markings similar to those used by artists sitting at the judge's table..."

Clearly, in the video I linked Russianoff is not teaching a student up for auditions or at that moment formally auditioning for an opening, either by ability or his underclassman undergraduate status. I'm not referring to the video, nor taking issue with Russianoff's approach here trying to get the student to think musically.

My statement fully allows for situations where it's okay to not play to the auditioner's (or composer's or editor's or whoever's) interpretation.

And your retort:

"Sure, but Russianoff is teaching a student, not prepping someone for an audition."

Yeah, I get that. What you don't seem to get is that I get that.

You've taken the time to (think you are) correcting me on two things my statements fully accounted for.....

but I'm the pedantic one. Yeah.



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