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 Re: Selmer HS* and Vandoren M13
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2019-07-19 07:05

The tip openings are pretty close to the same. Around .99mm's to 1.01mm's or so. They are not exact. The bore of the Selmer is a tad bit smaller. The rails on the Selmer are thinner. The distance between the Selmer right and left rails are narrower and the depth of the chamber/baffle of the Selmer is shallower. Because of this being not as deep as the Vandoren the Selmer is a tad bit brighter in sound. But the sound does carry better very well.

The bad part of the Vandoren M series models is above High C they play flat. 438 on Buffet R13's. Something you need to be aware of unless you buy a 63 reverse tapered barrel. Then you might be OK; however some notes may tune sharp because of this and other notes may be dead sounding such as the E just below the the throat G# and A. Probably flat as well.

Because of this I'd take a diamond file and dig out the chamber of the Selmer HS* until the sound warms up because the qualities are better in the long run. Due to the thinner rails and narrower distance between the rails the sound has more ping/overtones to it and it's easier to articulate. Whereas with the Vandoren mouthpieces you may need to try out 10 to 15 to find 1 or 2 that play the same because the rubber shrinks too much, maybe 25 to 30 percent. Very stinky rubber.

So don't yell at me saying I'm wrong. First go test your wonderful Buffet's with the M13 mouthpieces and I'm sure you will find the upper register on the standard Buffet barrels play flat above high C. It's just a fact. Go buy a Korg tuner before making any comments. Yes the 1960's Buffets is a very different animal. I'm referring to the new horns. The old Buffels you can use a 66mm Moennig barrel.


Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces


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