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 Re: Beethoven Violin Concerto transposed Clarinet Part
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2018-01-21 22:10

Thanks to the contributors to this thread.

There is a further thing I want to say.

That is, that what you finally play on is determined by all sorts of things: the quality of the instrument you have available, the temperature of the hall perhaps; and so on.

The most important thing in all music is to ask yourself, what was the composer after, here?

How seriously you take that question can depend a great deal on the composer. Simon Aldrich, a previous contributor to this thread, has gone on record here as saying that he finds that the composers he encounters mostly don't care much about what instrument you play their music on.

But he hasn't encountered Beethoven. Faced with a genius like Beethoven, I'd quail as a musician, as I imagine most of us might.

The best I can do is to try to ask myself what he wanted from me in his music. And if he (say) wrote for a C clarinet, and I don't have a C clarinet available, I try to imagine what he imagined he would get by writing for one – whether I do that on an A clarinet or a Bb clarinet.

Simon thinks that resonant fingerings are his most important consideration. I don't agree, because I remember the wonderful passages for solo violin and two C clarinets in the Missa Solemnis, which passages significantly resemble some aspects of the violin concerto. Here, the sound-world of the C clarinet is a very important contribution, I'd say.

I've quoted Charles Rosen here before, but here it is again:
Quote:

It is the duty of a player to play what he thinks is musically correct, regardless of what the composer wrote.

But it is also the duty of a player to do his best to convince himself that the composer knew what he was doing.
Especially, I'd say, in the case of Beethoven.

Tony



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