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Re: The Grip WE have on our ligatures

Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2011-06-09 15:48

Maybe this is somewhat tangential to the original discussion on ligature importance itself, but it does have to do with the degree of its tightness.

Let's assume you're working with a ligature that is successfully designed to hold the reed at various degrees of pressure against the mouthpiece, from "just enough to keep the reed in one place" to "pratically enough pressure to crack the mouthpiece" -- not that I'm suggested either extreme be employed.

Just how much pressure--really--is optimal?

I know, I know--"it's highly performer and setup specific," would be a very credible answer.

And yet, to quote one of my favs: Tom Ridenour, the reed is a spring form: a pool diving board if you will--only one that tapers as one approaches its sides and tip. And diving boards work best when the non-business end is firmly secured. This would suggest support for tight ligatures.

Granted--the analogy is far from perfect.

And yet another (opposing?) metaphor: take a piece of plywood and attempt to saw it. Asked rhetorically, does it cut easier when the plywood is vibrating back and forth widly in reaction to the saw, of when it's held firm?

Clearly--the firmer the wood's held in place. the easier the cut--all other things equal. So this analogy seems to make the opposite argument that the business end of the reed vibrates more (assumed to be a good thing) when the other end is held down with minimal pressure.

I'd love to hear people's thoughts about "how only fools under/over tighten their ligatures" and why they think this is the case.

Or maybe the answer is "kid, the idea that there being a single "pounds/sq ft or kilograms/sq meter" amount of pressure that's optimal, is as crazy as making one universally sized bowling bowl."

Rules: nobody can quote fear of damaging the ligature or mouthpiece as a reason to torque screws to a less than ideal setting. Not that this isn't a valid argument, but I'd like to hear the SCIENCE first. Worse case, we can back off our ligature screws a bit in the interest of pragmatism later, if super torqueing our ligatures turns out to be the majority opinion.

Thanks fellow clarinet ethusiasts!

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