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Re: Want to play in HS band? Pass a drug test

Author: Ski
Date: 2007-08-04 23:28

I found this article online which goes into much more detail about the situation in the Utah schools...

http://ut.mpp.org/site/c.fgLKIXOIKtF/b.1774883/apps/nl/content2.asp?content_id=%7B84DAC6BB-31C9-4DE6-8E0B-F2673B7BF5DA%7D¬oc=1

I'd like to suggest that this article be given a careful, slow read.

What I read was some very confused reasoning on the part of school officials. The degree to which these people are misguided in their approach and reasoning boggles the mind, and it took them 18 months to arrive at such an errant conclusion! See, I'm wondering what it is about the nature of extra-curricular activities which led the board members to think that such students would be more prone to doing drugs.

The article mentions that kids will be tested once for each activity they engage in, including such things as "solo ensemble". So if a kid signs up for flute and volleyball they need to pee in a cup twice. That's not only insane, but costly! Note the cost quoted for each test: $18. But in another online article, the cost quoted was $50 - $70 per test.

At the very bottom it lists what kids will be tested for, including creatinine level. If my understanding is correct, this chemical is produced as a byproduct of muscle activity. So if a kid works out at home (as I used to do), and their creatinine level is high, I wonder what kind of extracurricular jeopardy will that put him/her in?

These is not a rational decision. In part it represents a shifting of the burden of parents to mold their kids' behavior onto the school system, with the naughty/nice behavior check to be arbitrated by some pee and some chemicals. It also subtly stigmatizes children who want to explore life in terms of music and sports as potential sociopaths.

And if you don't submit to the test then you can't engage in these activities. So I supposed either ur-ine or ur-out...

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