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 RE: ? I thought an R-13 was an R-13 ?
Author: Vytas 
Date:   2003-01-20 16:48

Mark,

I can't find Mr. Francois Kloc's post now, but I remember he wrote that ALL of Pro Buffets shipped to US starting 1950 actually had a polycylindrical bore and the rest had a master bore. Also he mentioned that Mr. Robert Carree became production manager in 1955 and that's when Buffet introduced R-13 as a model.
Before that "R-13" was a stock number for pro clarinets made for US market. Also I got the impression that the very first R-13's had a different bore than regular R-13, but its unclear to me which ones were the very first, those that were made in 1950 or the first and newly introduced R-13 in 1955

Mr. Francois Kloc wrote:
****The differences between the Vintage and the regular R13 are: The Vintage is made out of Prestige wood, which is denser than the wood we are using on the Regular R13 (it doesn't mean it is better quality). I say that because many people think that we don't use poor wood to make instruments it will not work.
The Bore of the Vinatge is 2 mm smaller than the R13 on the cylinder and the entry cone is smaller too. The 12 register tube is 1 mm up and the bell is 1mm longer. It comes with adjustable thumb rest and two barrels 1 polycylindrical and 1 conical to give you two different ways to play the instrument. The conical one is engraved V2. The Vintage came out after Rene Lesieux the Rechearch and Development Manager at Buffet did a tour and met a lot of player in North America. Many of them asked him if it was possible for Buffet to make an instrument more like the first 1950' R13 and it is what Rene worked on. Francois Kloc***

Vytas
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