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RE: ? I thought an R-13 was an R-13 ?

Author: Vytas
Date: 2003-01-17 23:33

Mark P. Jasuta wrote:

>>>The fact that the throat "A" and "G#" keys got separate posts is not reliable to distinguish R-13 clarinets. This change was industry wide and just so happened in the 50's.<<<

LOL. It just doesn't work that way. Do you mean someone came up with the idea and the others borrowed it for their own design? For your information Selmer had separate post for the throat keys at least seven years before Buffet came up with this idea. LOL. In 1954 Buffet still had sheared post for the throat keys.

I have 1948 "N" series (412X) Selmer and guess what, it has separate posts. Here is the link to 1949 "N" series Selmer. See for yourself.
BTW this horn is also mine.
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I believe all the info that started this thread is correct. It seems that Buffet changed back to the flat spring design for the C#/G# key in 1956 and again back to the needle spring design in 1970

Serial number 52,4XX from 1956 - needle spring.
According to madvax Serial number 535xx from 1956 already has a flat spring.

I believe Robert Carree's new design poly-cylindrical R13 serial numbers start 50,000 and up.... but to play on the safe side I would say it is somewhere in between 48801 – 51000

Vytas

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